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I made these list for the fun of it. Contrary to the usual Green Tide tactica I wanted to see how few models I can field at a tournament army level (local is 1850) and here is what I came up with:

14 Models:

158 Big Mek: KFF, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
168 Big Mek: SAG, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
354 Nobz (4): Warbikes, Painboy with Grot Orderly, Cybork Bodies, 3 PK, 3 Kombi, 3 Ammo Runts, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
600 Deff Dread (5): 2 Kustom Mega-Blastas, Armour Plates, Grot Rigger
570 Blitza Jet (3): Red Paint Job, Flyer Ace

22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

Out of these list I think the 14 Model list is the most "viable" because of SAG and Jets while 2 Warbosses, 18 Nobz, and 2 Painboyz can deal a lot of damage more damage but are riskier to field.

I wouldn't bother with the KFF, he's got no squad to protect him and the Deff Dreads can't block LoS. Just get another SAG. Edit: Also oilers on the SAG... zero point to that

I've also found Duel Skorcha Dreads are 'great' as far as dreads go (which isn't far generally), and the plates are a waste of points IMO

I ran all Nob Bikers + 10 Grots at 2k once, it sucked terribly...

Even as a point waster I might want to try the second SAG. I have the Oilers and Kustom Mega Blasters just there just to take up points so I can keep the model count as low as possible.

The point of these armies is to bring a "fieldable" army with a minimal number of models on the table a la Grey Knights. Usually I care about having efficient points but not with this army. I do have a normal low body count army but it still has about 4 Trukks. I was wondering if anyone else had played around with concepts like this before and what the results were. ie: I've seen the list for that Grot army who's sole purpose is to field as many models as possible.

You could take an army of two big meks and two deff dreads and simply not spend the other points?

I reckon if your gonna make a low model count army, try to make a decent one...

Not spend points? It didn't occur to me to not spend 1350 points.

When your totally wasting points on stuff like Oilers purely to get the points cost up, why bother taking the full 1850?

 Iiswin wrote:
I made these list for the fun of it. Contrary to the usual Green Tide tactica I wanted to see how few models I can field at a tournament army level (local is 1850) and here is what I came up with:

14 Models:

158 Big Mek: KFF, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
168 Big Mek: SAG, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
354 Nobz (4): Warbikes, Painboy with Grot Orderly, Cybork Bodies, 3 PK, 3 Kombi, 3 Ammo Runts, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
600 Deff Dread (5): 2 Kustom Mega-Blastas, Armour Plates, Grot Rigger
570 Blitza Jet (3): Red Paint Job, Flyer Ace

22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

Out of these list I think the 14 Model list is the most "viable" because of SAG and Jets while 2 Warbosses, 18 Nobz, and 2 Painboyz can deal a lot of damage more damage but are riskier to field.

Dw dakkamite is full of constructive criticism like all od da rest of us out there!

low model count ork armies are just not how to do it these days sorry ta tell ya.
the meks are just full of no lol. if your gonna use lonly meks dont give them alot of stuff so they can die with all that gear.
heres my "ideas"/"musts" to do to the first list.
i dont like doin this and rarely will i but i gotta.

158 Big Mek: KFF, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
168 Big Mek: SAG, Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, 3 Grot Oilers
600 Deff Dread (5): 2 Kustom Mega-Blastas, Armour Plates, Grot Rigger
570 Blitza Jet (3): Red Paint Job, Flyer Ace
full of no..
neither fix it all or use ur 2ed list.
there is to much work involved in fixing this.

this one however
22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

looks...... better/fun
like i said befor. orks cant run this effectively sending 2 deathstars at them is a simple method to defeating it.. focus one squad till you kill 3 than go for the other. witch in most situations its very easy the more LDs you make nobbikers roll the more likely your opponent will keep you stuck at the middle of the bored spending the game regrouping.

idk try meganobs in wagons if you want more of a stronger deathstar feel. but giving alot of units useless upgrades is horrible thing to do. and with the FAQ or whatever making the nobs not characters it was a hard Nerf.

 Orkimedezz wrote:
this one however
22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

looks...... better/fun
like i said befor. orks cant run this effectively sending 2 deathstars at them is a simple method to defeating it.. focus one squad till you kill 3 than go for the other. witch in most situations its very easy the more LDs you make nobbikers roll the more likely your opponent will keep you stuck at the middle of the bored spending the game regrouping.

idk try meganobs in wagons if you want more of a stronger deathstar feel. but giving alot of units useless upgrades is horrible thing to do. and with the FAQ or whatever making the nobs not characters it was a hard Nerf.

Meganobz, eh? Might be a good alternative. If I take a MA Warboss, 10 MeNz, and a BW with all the upgrades: x2, THEN I can still have 20 Lootas and a Dakkajet with Flyboss (still 1850). Not exactly the small number I wanted but 45 Models isn't too big either.

 Iiswin wrote:

 Orkimedezz wrote:
this one however
22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

looks...... better/fun
like i said befor. orks cant run this effectively sending 2 deathstars at them is a simple method to defeating it.. focus one squad till you kill 3 than go for the other. witch in most situations its very easy the more LDs you make nobbikers roll the more likely your opponent will keep you stuck at the middle of the bored spending the game regrouping.

idk try meganobs in wagons if you want more of a stronger deathstar feel. but giving alot of units useless upgrades is horrible thing to do. and with the FAQ or whatever making the nobs not characters it was a hard Nerf.

Meganobz, eh? Might be a good alternative. If I take a MA Warboss, 10 MeNz, and a BW with all the upgrades: x2, THEN I can still have 20 Lootas and a Dakkajet with Flyboss (still 1850). Not exactly the small number I wanted but 45 Models isn't too big either.

sure at this point its whatever floats your boat lol

 Iiswin wrote:
22 Models:

150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
150 Warboss: Warbike, Power Cybork Body, Attack Squig
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
775 Nobz (10): Warbikes, Painboy, Cybork Bodies, 9 Power Klaws, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole

I actually think low model can work, as long as it is the right models. Plus it provides a challenge

What you have here is 2 NASTY units, a couple of things though:

1) You are never going to need more than 12 or so str 9 PK attacks, ever, therefore you could drop around 12 PK and still wreck anything you touch. that saves you 300 points right off the bat.

2) do you really need 10 per squad? i would say 7 per squad plus a warboss would be more optimal. thats another 300 points.

Now you have 2 NASTY units still, but 600 points to spend and lets face it, orks can get A LOT for 600 points.

Such as a jet and a few trukk boy units or lootas or a bit of all of it.

2 x Warbosses in mega armour, cybork body and attack squig,
2 x 10 Meganobz in Battlewagons
3 x 5 Lootas
3 x Dakkajets

Job done

As far as I remember I think meganobz take 2 slots per model in a battlewagon, so you have to drop one so the megarmored boss to fit with them.
the dreads list is funny as hell xD shooty armies will have a festivity shooting it for 3+ turns before they reach the other side of the map
But to keep in the spirit of the list, wouldnt it be better to get Killakanz instead of nob bikers ?
These lists may be terrible competetive-wise but they look look so fun xD

Might as Well have fun Moddeling

HQ(340)
Wazdakka
Mad Dok
Elite(710)
4 MegaNobz,Cyb,K/S-S:
Wagon,DR,Armor Plate,Kannon,2BS,Boarding Plank,Grot Rigger,RPJ
4 MegaNobz,Cyb,K/S-S:
Wagon,DR,Armor Plate,Kannon,2BS,Boarding Plank,Grot Rigger,RPJ
Troops (800)
12 WarBikers,Nob/PK,BP Cyb all
12 WarBikers,Nob/PK,BP Cyb all
(34 total not the smallest but it just might work)

Mad Dok gets stuck in with one of the Meganob Wagons

That sounds like a really neat list man, never thought of cyborking warbikers but could be worth it especially against Tau.

I never got it why Meganobz dont have Cybork Bodies from the get-go, since from the fluff they baisicly have to have cybork body parts to be armored like that, and all models have such parts, besides the SM/CSM equivalent have a 5+ invul I think.... ou well
I am liking that list in any case, it could probably do very well vs tau, probably even SM lists, not to mention it looks uber-awesomesauce fun to play

Yeah its a bit naff, that the MegaNobz, richest of all Nobz, cannot get the same gear as standard Nobz. Banner, painboy etc. Just bad game design tbh

 Dakkamite wrote:
Yeah its a bit naff, that the MegaNobz, richest of all Nobz, cannot get the same gear as standard Nobz. Banner, painboy etc. Just bad game design tbh

Eh', what can ya do. we play the cards we are dealt, not the one we wish for. Maybe a shiny star will shine on us with the next codex.
Anywho, I was thinking of that it would be a funny list to get an allout MANZ + BW list
Lets say 5 battlewagons, 5x squads of Meganobs 5 strong and two warbosses in mega armor rawr

It would be easy to counter but I think it would be a fun list to run

 Delevarius wrote:

Troops:
5 Meganobz (3xKombiSkorchas, Battlewagon /w Deffrolla & Boarding Plank)
330
5 Meganobz (3xKombiSkorchas, Battlewagon /w Deffrolla & Boarding Plank)
330

Elites
5 Meganobz (3xKombiSkorchas, Battlewagon /w Deffrolla & Boarding Plank)
330
5 Meganobz (2xKombiSkorchas, Battlewagon /w Deffrolla & Boarding Plank)
325
4 Meganobz (2xKombiSkorchas, Battlewagon /w Deffrolla & Boarding Plank)
285
1850 points[/spoiler]
It would be easy to counter but I think it would be a fun list to run

lol that seems kinda fun to try out! who brings models in this game right X
and way to find a use for boarding planks lol