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This is my first attempt at a Black Tide list using the shiny new Space Marines codex. It probably isn't the most competitive way to play, but it sure looks like a fun list to me. Any suggestions for improvement?

HQ:
Grimuldus - 185

Elites:
Terminators x5 w/ Cyclone ML, Chain Fist x2 - 235

Sternguard x5 w/ Meltagun, Combi-Melta x3, Drop Pod - 195

Troops:
Crusader Squad (10 initiates, 10 neophytes) w/ Flamer, Power Fist, Sword Brethren w/ Combi-Flamer + Lightning Claw + Melta Bombs - 310

Crusader Squad (10 initiates, 10 neophytes) w/ Flamer, Power Fist, Sword Brethren w/ Combi-Flamer + Lightning Claw + Melta Bombs - 310

Crusader Squad (5 initiates) w/ Plasma Gun, Lascannon - 105

Crusader Squad (5 initiates) w/ Plasma Gun, Missile Launcher w/ Flakk - 110

Fast Attack:
Bikes x5 w/ Grav Gun x2, Sergeant w/ Combi-Grav + Melta Bombs - 150

Heavy Support:
Devastators x5 w/ Lascannon x4 - 150

Fortifications:
Aegis Defense Line w/ Quad Gun - 100

TOTAL - 1850

Grav weapon Centurions make a tempting addition to the list, but I'm not sure what I'd drop to make room for them.

EDIT: Cenobyte Servitors can no longer join crusader squads, if I'm reading the codex correctly. Dropped them for a few extra upgrades.

Free up 610 points and add two Spartans for your 20 man squads + character.

Like you said, dont know how competitive the list is but it looks like fun and fun to play against.