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Made in gb
Boosting Space Marine Biker




The Eye of Terror

recently got a codex and a space marine strike force and I need and idea about how to put this all together into a cohesive army.

not going to be obtaining any new units for a while so can you please give me advice based on what's in the box. having started with cc chaos marines a shooty option is preferable

box contents
1 captain
1 command squad
2 tactical squads
1 scouts with sniper rifles
1 dreadnaught venerable
1 assault squad
1 drop pod
1 razorback

any tactics / silly trick I can pull with this will be much appreciated


Automatically Appended Next Post:
when I say put together I mean form a list, im good with a tube of glue

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/11/17 14:03:55


Armies
CSM Zenmarine Warband from assorted tratiors and heritics

DARK ANGELS woo woot
the way to win is not to make a grand masterplan, its by making sure your opponents grand masterplan fails  
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






Have you had any thoughts on what Chapter (or Tactics) you'll be using? Some of them would alter the special weapon suggestions below:

Obviously the sniper scouts only really go together one way (sniper rifles, camo cloaks) but it's a decent setup for objective camping. The missile launcher is optional depending on spare points.

For the Tactical squads I would suggest using Plasma for the specials, you can then give the Flamers from the sprue to the Assault squad (5 won't really threaten anyone in combat, but 2 jumping template weapons should prove useful).

Combat squad one of the tacticals, having 5 with a missile launcher handing back, with the other 5 plus the captain (with a combi-weapon on the sarge possibly) in the Razorback.

Give the command squad the Melta's and stick them in the Drop Pod. The Pod will arrive on turn one and easily will end your opponent's most dangerous tank. Survival beyond this point is unlikely, so don't load them up on too many other options (banner, apoth etc.). This is normally the job of Sternguard, but since you don't have any a Command squad is the next best option here.

For the Dreadnought, since you've not got many vehicles, he'll generally be the target of your opponent's anti-tank weaponry, so a long-ranged loadout (lascannons, missile launcher) would be better, but I don't think the Ven kit comes with a missile launcher... Anyway, if at all possible, acquire some magnets so you can swap the arms out for versatility (there are plenty of tutorials online).

{Edit} For the Captain, weapon choices are quite dependent on your local meta (what your opponents play), but you should be able to use the spares to tool-up your sergeants if you wish.

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Made in gb
Boosting Space Marine Biker




midlands UK

add another tactical squad and make all 5 man squads into 10 man squads. then get 5 assault terminators TH/SS then
a chapter master and another tactical squad then a 10 man devastator squad and a predator and 6 bikes.

thats the army list for you for all comers.

dont have time to chat tactics im afraid, just focus on your main target while noticing secondary and tirtary targets. play offensively

Blood Ravens, 1700pts

Empire 40 wounds

Astra Militarum 2250pts

Khorne 750pts

Space Wolves 1550pts

Orks 500pts

 
   
Made in ca
Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine




canada

he said he couldnt buy anything else^

and i agree with the first responder, thats probably the best your gunna have with the stuff you have

 
   
Made in gb
Boosting Space Marine Biker




The Eye of Terror

thanks so much for your replies, I didn't give you a lot to work with I know.

chapter tactics can literally be any one as I am field the loyalist version of my homebrew chaos warband, mainly so I can slip the missile launchers into my chaos list and have a painted representation. I was thinking iron hands for the extra survivability and so I end up with a dread that recovers hull points in addition to rerolling damage.
I've managed to get a storm shield off my brother for use on my captain (shield eternal looks so useful!).

my current meta consists of a dark angel player (my brother) who is a bit of a plasma addict. a tyranid player who goes gaunt heavy (has over 200 painted gaunts and one game managed to get all of them onto the board at once!).

but the guy a really want to beat is my doubles partner Philip who like me fields chaos with a heavy emphasis on maulerfeinds, noise marines (when not fielding drakes), and zombies. I need a way to kill them in great numbers because he literally takes 70 zombies minimum to each game.

I'm stuck for ideas as the easiest way to kill zombies is the flamers and frag missile launcher (although that flamer assault marine combo shows promise), but I don't see this as effective against noise marines plus the rhino he buys for the noise marines is always used to Sheppard zombies form point to point meaning the zombies aren't as slow as I like. leader for him is a fun option of typhus and a dark apostle with MoT and the scrolls of Magnus jammed in with 20 now hateful zombies.

dreadnought is going to have to be able to kill pretty much anything he has as his anti armour stems from maulerfeinds (kill them and he has no way of reasonably dealing with a dread aside from a zombie tarpit) so I was thinking assault cannon and power fist with storm bolter (tankred load out) and having him covered by a tactical squad (eye of terror formation, a trick I pulled by sticking a hellbrute in the middle of a ring of cultists so he couldn't be assaulted and had a 5+ cover at all times ) dread should kill a maulerfeind due to the higher WS and I4 but the problem is he has more fiends than I have dreads, 2 of them will take him apart, and he is the prime target from an armour point of view

As for captain loadout I was thinking of making him a company master and taking a shield eternal, teeth of terra, artificer armour and meltabombs and possibly giving him the primarchs wrath if I have points. eternal warrior from the shield should stop him being killed in one by his maulerfeinds and meltabombs should down a fiend if he tries that move. the teeth of terra is for killing noise marines and the primarchs wrath is nice for shooting stuff. the orbital barrage is reserved for typhus's face

any criticisms welcome

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/11/18 10:00:58


Armies
CSM Zenmarine Warband from assorted tratiors and heritics

DARK ANGELS woo woot
the way to win is not to make a grand masterplan, its by making sure your opponents grand masterplan fails  
   
Made in be
Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries




I believe you can only take one of those chapter relics per army
   
Made in ca
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

maartendp wrote:
I believe you can only take one of those chapter relics per army


You may take one of each chapter relic per army, but only one per model (the model can replace one weapon with a chapter relic).

Of course, this means having multiple HQ's, which the OP does not have.

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Made in nz
Implacable Black Templar Initiate




New Zealand

Play some conversion shenanigans with the Dread, making him a rifleman is awesome, 2x TL autocannons for 4x re-rollable Strength 7 shots is very useful at 48".

"Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do and die" - Alfred Lord Tennyson.

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Made in gb
Steadfast Grey Hunter





i believe its as many can replace current wargear and not more then one per detachment, but lets not derail the thread

 
   
 
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