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I've ran this list a few times now and really enjoy playing it so far. I am just a little unsure on how to run the mastery levels on my princes. I feel like the mastery levels are better spent on the CD princes then the C:CSM prince because of the crappy codex powers.


HQ: Kairos Fateweaver (1#, 300 pts)

HQ: Lord of Change (1#, 305 pts)
Lesser Rewards x1; DR: Greater Rewards x2; Psyker (Mastery Level 3))

Troops: Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (10#, 99 pts)
11 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch

Troops: Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (10#, 90 pts)
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch

Heavy Support: Daemon Prince (1#, 345 pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch, Power Armour; Wings, Lesser Rewards x1; DR: Exalted Rewards; Psyker (Mastery Level 3)

Heavy Support: Daemon Prince (1#, 345 pts)
Daemon of Tzeentch,Power Armour; Wings, Lesser Rewards x1; DR: Exalted Rewards; Psyker (Mastery Level 3)

HQ: Daemon Prince C:CSM (1#, 290 pts)
Power Armour; Wings; Increase Mastery Level x1; Daemon of Tzeentch; The Black Mace [Chaos]

Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
9 Chaos Cultists
1 Cultist Champion

Fast Attack: Heldrake (1#, 170 pts)
Baleflamer

Validation Report:
c-1. File Version: 1.31 For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Named or Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission; b-2. Levels of Alliance: Battle Brothers
Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules

Composition Report:
HQ: 2 (1 - 2)
Elite: 0 (0 - 3)
Troops: 2 (2 - 6)
Fast: 0 (0 - 3)
Heavy: 2 (0 - 3)
Fort: 0 (0 - 1)

Total Roster Cost: 1994

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I agree that the CSM taxes the DPs with having to take a god-specific power, and that ML points are better spent on the CD DPs.

I would not take the ML on the CSM daemon, as it will be a tzeentch power and suck lemons.

you're paying a tax of 50 pts for the cultists to get a heldrake and a CSM DP. Is that worth it? You could take a CD DP and have 170 pts for screamers or more pink horrors

Why are you taking the LoC? I feel heralds better fulfill the role of divination psyker for CD

I mean this would do fine I just feel points are being squandered in several places that could be used for more troops or more powerful magic

 changerofways wrote:
I agree that the CSM taxes the DPs with having to take a god-specific power, and that ML points are better spent on the CD DPs.

That's why he only got 1 Mastery level. Heck I would have not even given him one if he another shooting attack.

 changerofways wrote:
I would not take the ML on the CSM daemon, as it will be a tzeentch power and suck lemons.

I find myself only vector striking and shooting the first 2 or 3 turns so he needs some form of shooting. I have even consider dropping the Mace for a BBoS.

 changerofways wrote:
you're paying a tax of 50 pts for the cultists to get a heldrake and a CSM DP. Is that worth it? You could take a CD DP and have 170 pts for screamers or more pink horrors

Asked myself that same question a few times now and I think its worth it. The cultists are another VERY cheap scoring unit! I normally have then camp home objectives as they horrors DS anywhere I need them. Screamers would not really fit into my list. Yes they are fast but any unit on the ground and not in reserve will be a fire magnet!

 changerofways wrote:
Why are you taking the LoC? I feel heralds better fulfill the role of divination psyker for CD

The LoC is a ML 3 FMC with T6 that's 40 points cheaper than a prince! Yes heralds are very good psykers but how its that going to help my 5 FMC or horrors sitting in reserve?

 changerofways wrote:
I mean this would do fine I just feel points are being squandered in several places that could be used for more troops or more powerful magic

At 1850 I have 5 maxed out FMCs and all my HQ and Heavy slots filled. Other than a Screamers star or maybe some hounds what else in the CD dex would help my list?