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Hi all,

Im am building a pre heresy EC list. I don't like playing evil forces, but I did like the purple of the EC, which is why I am trying to focus on building a loyalist EC army.
First I had a list with 3 rhinos, a spartan, a predator and a lot of veterans. It was pretty competitive, but it doesn't really fit in an EC army, and I really am a fluff bunny.

As far as I know (and I'm no EC expert yet), EC used a lot of fast units like speeders and jetbikes. Problem is that I just can't seem to build a fluffy semi competitive list.

Today I used a list that looked more or less like this:
- Eidolon (jump pack) (i know he's a traitor, but I was just testing him)
- Champion
- 10 assault squad
- 10 veterans (2 missile launchers)
- 5 Veterans (1 ML)
- 5 Veterans (power weapons)
- 2 Mortis Contemptor (kheres assault cannon)
- 2 Javelin Attack Speeder (CML, MM)
- 3 Jetbikes (volite gun)

I was playing tau, so its not the best army to measure my army against, but I didn't stand a change. Fast units are quite expensive, and very vulnerable (even the javelin speeder with AV11 and not open topped is vulnerable with only 2 hullpoints). The jetbikes are 145 points, with only 3 wounds total and not scoring.

Can you guys point me in the right direction.. how to build a fluffy loyalist EC list that has is semi competitive? What are MUST units that have to be in the list to be able to call it an EC list? Did they never use a lot of heavy support?

I hope you guys can help me out, before I'm buying expensive FW models that I end up never using.
I play in friendly games most of the time. We allow all models from FW and GW, and we don't mind mixing HH books with normal SM codexes either.

Look to the 30k ruleset. Even if you don't buy the models, you could (and should) use the rules for units like the Phoenix Terminators, Palantine Blades, and Cacophony (I refuse to refer to them by their ludicrous name).

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Look to the 30k ruleset. Even if you don't buy the models, you could (and should) use the rules for units like the Phoenix Terminators, Palantine Blades, and Cacophony (I refuse to refer to them by their ludicrous name).

Thank you for the reply. I am using most of the 30k ruleset. I'm using the rules for palantine blades and all my vehicles and upgrades are taken from the 30k ruleset. I do however take the tactical en assault squads from the normal codex SM, because the point values of those in the 30k set are 1.5 those of 40k for the exact same unit (in agreement with the other players of course).

What do you guys think of this list both from a fluff point of view and a semi competitive point of view?:
Using the 30k ruleset from HH book 1 and 2

HQ:
1 Captain Saul Tarvitz (has counter attack and can take a rite of war, making the veterans troops)

TROOPS:
5 legion veteran tactical squad (missile launcher) (30k veterans have +1A, 2 cc weapons and a bolter. The missile launcher can fire as an assault weapon half range if moved)
5 legion veteran tactical squad (missile launcher)
5 legion veteran tactical squad (missile launcher)
10 legion veteran tactical squad (power weapon 5x, Fist 1x)
10 Legion Assault Squad (fist, artificer armour)

ELITES:
1 Mortis Contemptor Dreadnought (2x kheres assault cannon) (kheres assault cannon has 2 shots more than a normal assault cannon. Skyfire if it didnt move in the movement fase)
1 Mortis Contemptor Dreadnought (2x kheres assault cannon)

FAST ATTACK:
1 Javelin Attack Speeder (multi melta, CML, 2x HKM) (javelin attack speeder has 1 higher AV value than a normal speeder and isn't open topped)
1 Javelin Attack Speeder (multi melta, CML, 2x HKM)

HEAVY SUPPORT:
1 Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (heavy bolter sponsons) (has a 6 shot rending auto cannon that ignores jink saves. The tank is fast)
1 Legion Sicaran Venator (lascannon Sponsons) (has a ordnance shot range solid real gun shot. The tank is fast)

1 Aegis Defence Line


I wrote some specs of the 30k units behind the names for the people who might have no idea what they are and what the do. I hope the way I phrased it is legal.
So what do you guys think. My meta is mostly SM, SW, Nids and TAU.