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Hi all,

I've been trying to come up with some list for small games, around 500 and 600 points, with my space marines.
Here's what I have:

HQ

Chaplain 90
Jump pack 15
Total 105

Troop

Tactical squad 70
Vet Sgt 10
Power sword 15
Flamer 5
Total 100

Tactial Squad 70
Missile luancher 15
Total 85

Dedicated transport

Razorback 55
Twin linked assualt cannon 20
Total75

Fast attack

Assualt squad 85
Vet Sgt 10
Lighten claw 15
Meltabomb 5
Flamer 5
Plasma pistol 15
Total 135

Total 500 points

For a 600 point list I thought of adding:

Tac squad 70
Missile luancher 15
Flakk missile 10
total 95

add a Melta or auspex to the chaplain for 5 points?


I wouyd like to here anay pros and cons you could think of for these list or if you have game experince with ones of this size and what you used etc.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Seems kind of assaulty list...
It's gonna be fun and different, but not sure if it's going to work that well. The Tac squad with RB will not assault, they'll most likely be assaulted which hurts Tacs as they need attacks. And 7 boltershots from 12" isn't that impressing.

Your Assault squad seems somewhat good but Lightning Claw could be switched as a PS for more attacks. Vets need them all! Oh, and Plasma pistol is pretty expensive. Sure, if you can't figure anything else to buy, but another bolter in the Tac squad (the RB one) won't hurt!

Your AT is a bit light. A TL-Lascannon on Razorback would boost that!


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Your 600 points look good. But Scout Snipers or Dev squad if you find the points would be a good because Tacticals aren't that great.

Also what Chapter Tactics do you use? Raven Guard could be nice with this IMO.

 soomemafia wrote:
Seems kind of assaulty list...
It's gonna be fun and different, but not sure if it's going to work that well. The Tac squad with RB will not assault, they'll most likely be assaulted which hurts Tacs as they need attacks. And 7 boltershots from 12" isn't that impressing.

Your Assault squad seems somewhat good but Lightning Claw could be switched as a PS for more attacks. Vets need them all! Oh, and Plasma pistol is pretty expensive. Sure, if you can't figure anything else to buy, but another bolter in the Tac squad (the RB one) won't hurt!

Your AT is a bit light. A TL-Lascannon on Razorback would boost that!


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Your 600 points look good. But Scout Snipers or Dev squad if you find the points would be a good because Tacticals aren't that great.

Also what Chapter Tactics do you use? Raven Guard could be nice with this IMO.

Thanks for that, I've been on the fence about the plasma pistol, I could get anouther tac marine for the same cost. With the sgt in my assault squad I went with the claw to get the wound re rolls, as I'll get miss re rolls due to the chaplin, so don't think the 1 less attack is to much of an issue. I use th eUltrmarine chapter tatics, they seem to be working so far, as long as you pick the righ one at the right time. The Lass cannon would ad some range I guess.

Or you can give LC to the Tac squad behind and keep the AC to help the other squad in infantry-hunting, that is a valid option too.
And yeah, forgot the Chaplain re-rolls! Too bad that only works on charge though.

Just FYI, don't post point values for each upgrade, DakkaDakka doesnt like that.

Otherwise I like the list, but if you are going for assulty I would look more to drop pods to get closer quicker. only leave one turn of shooting at you when you drop in rather then risking 2 or more turns while your assaulty guys move up the board.

taurising wrote:
Just FYI, don't post point values for each upgrade, DakkaDakka doesnt like that.

Otherwise I like the list, but if you are going for assulty I would look more to drop pods to get closer quicker. only leave one turn of shooting at you when you drop in rather then risking 2 or more turns while your assaulty guys move up the board.

Agree with the points thing
Also it is a pretty assualty list which is good to see. Only problem is it might not be the greatest if you have more than one round of shooting before assaulting.

I think a Librarian might be a better choice at this point level but that's your call. I assume you are going to slowly bring up the tac squad with missile launcher? If you do that you can put the librarian in that unit. If you are keeping the chaplain were you going to put him into the assualt squad? If you do that might be good, I just like access to some pyskers you know?

Thanks for heads up on th epints thing.

Some good points there. May look at swaping the transpot and one squad for some thing else. Maybe a vven dread?

 chiefbigredman wrote:

I think a Librarian might be a better choice at this point level but that's your call. I assume you are going to slowly bring up the tac squad with missile launcher? If you do that you can put the librarian in that unit. If you are keeping the chaplain were you going to put him into the assualt squad? If you do that might be good, I just like access to some pyskers you know?

Say what you want, but in small point games, Fearless units are gold since single unit breaking can also break your game.

I've gone back over it and got rid of the plasma pistol in the assualt squad, also added lass cannons to the razorback and flakk missiles to the tac squads.