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Hi guys, got my first Kings of War event (believe its the first in my city too) and need some help with my list. Its 1000 points with no allies, no named characters.

I'm pretty new to this sort of block based battle game so I could be missing some serious basics here.

Anyway, given Orcs total lack of warmachines and single, lameass monster, I'm looking to run lots of blocks of troops up the board and smash face the old fashioned way. I've taken two very large anvils (too much?) and three scary but compact hammer units. Three Orclings are there to redirect or block charges, get in the way, and generally just be annoying.

Ax Krudghorde [40] / 190
Ax Krudghorde [40] / 190
Morax Troop [10] / 115
Morax Troop [10] / 115
Gore Riders [10] / 150
Krudger on Gore [Hero] / 140
Orclings [1] / 25
Orclings [1] / 25
Orclings [1] / 25

=975

An alternative I have in mind is to cut the second massive Ax unit down to a Horde [30], and then use my 75 points to buy a Flagger on Gore (or just on foot, not sure if he can be sniped due to increased height?) and a bunch of banners, musicians etc. A chariot might be nice in there someplace, don't have many flankers...

Cheers

Drop an ax unit down to horde, get a Flagger on Gore for good maneuverability, then with 25 of the remaining points get the brew of strength for the 40-orc ax horde (to give them 20 attacks at delicious CS 2 with that tremendous De 5+ and huge nerve)

I'm not sure how much you want to keep your current list, but Trolls are a cheap flanker unit - with a higher speed, and the Regeneration is really, really good for single model units (3 dice Regen regardless of unit size). I usually take at least two, often three to five in larger games. They're also good at enemy wizard/standard/warmachine hunting, and are great for causing the few extra points you need in combat when used in conjunction with other units.

Not really committed to the above list, like what your suggesting and also just discovered Sniffs... here's what I'm looking at now

Ax "Krudghorde" [40] w/ Brew of Strength [+1 Crushing Strength], Banner @ 230
Morax Regiment [20] w/ musician @ 160
Sniff Troop [5] @ 50
Sniff Half-Regt [10] w/ Arrow of Piercing [one shot is Piercing 4] @ 100
Orcling [1] @ 25
Gore Riders Regiment [10] @ 150
Troll @ 50
Flagger @ 30
Gore Chariot @ 55
Krudger on Gore w/ Blade of Slashing [Bonus attack] @ 145

=995

take three Sniff troops of 5, with no magic item. more units with Vanguard = all up in your opponent's face before the game even begins (6" Speed = 12" Vanguard move!)

Morax Regiments I don't think are worth it... Troops have the same # of attacks and at De 4+ they don't have staying power regardless of troop of regiment. Two Morax troops from your original list would be a better usage. I'm personally not sold on the Gore Chariot, at only 3 attacks... love the Fight Wagon though.

Krudger on Chariot is same points cost for more attacks and CS3, you just lose the Individual, but it means flanks at 14 attacks and rear at 21 attacks.

May I suggest

This is kind of a generic flavor list and includes many unit types but a solid core of De 5+ Orcs that still can hit hard, but several very offensive elite units. Plus two flaggers, one that can heal and one that can zap.

200 2 x 20 Ax
115 1 x 10 Morax
80 1 x 10 Greatax
150 1 x 10 Gore Riders
100 2 x 5 Sniffs
65 1 x Flagger Gore w/ Healing Charm
65 1 x Flagger Gore w/ Boomstick
150 1 x Krudger on Gore Chariot w/ Blade of Slashing (At 8!)
50 1 x Troll
25 1 x Orclings

= 1000

Options, swap Krudger on Gore chariot w/ Krudger on Gore to keep Individual (free up 5 points) and swap Zap Flagger (free up 65 points) for Fight Wagon (70 points)... season to taste

Yeah I sorta cheaped out to get all my painted Morax in the list, gotta agree the regiment has little going for it. Ditto for the chariot, it doesn't look too good on paper but I painted up a chariot model and want to use it - a krudger chariot could be a good idea. Same boat with the mounted hero, could make him a flagger I guess

Until this morning (and after previous list) only had access to the freebie rules and so none of the newer artefacts. Really opens up my options. You really reckon boomstick/healing charm are worth 30pts each?

I'm super new to the strategy behind games like this, whats the reason behind two 20x Ax instead of one 40x? Simply to unlock another hero?

Currently;

20x Ax
20x Ax
10x Morax
10x Morax
5x Sniff
5x Sniff
Troll
Orcling
Krudger Chariot, Blade of Slashing
Flagger w/ Healing Charm [no gore model]
Flagger w/ Gore

I'm considering 7 league boots on the chariot hero and maybe boosting a sniff unit to 10 for a scary vanguarding flank. Is two units of Morax too much? I tend to get overwhelmed when I play with a large number of units

Hordes are very survivable but I don't like taking them in less than 1500 points. Two normal units will provide the same number of attacks, but have the added benefit of being two units the enemy has to deal with. In smaller games, more units tends to be better as you have more flexibility in deploying and playing the game (more units to react to changing situations, etc). For instance, if you lose that Horde to, say, a lucky charging regiment of knights, that's a huge chunk of your army gone.

I absolutely believe Healing Charm and Boomstick are worth it. The Zap allows you to put reliable a point or two of damage on enemy warmachines which usually have 9/11 nerve, giving you a chance of wavering or even breaking them. Zap is also really useful for softening up a unit before charging them - one or two extra points can help a LOT on the 2d6 bell curve Nerve checks. Conversely, the Healing Charm will be able to remove a few points from a unit - better used on a unit with a few points of damage than one with a lot, as the one with a lot of damage on it will most likely break on even low rolls; while a unit with a few points is closer to wavering, and you want to keep it fresher for longer.

If you need to drop the Gore Riders, I'd drop a unit of Ax first before the Gore Riders. Ax have De 5+ which is great... but Gore Riders also have De 5+, and Me 3+ (Ax have 4+), and CS 2 (Ax have CS 1), and are faster.

Don't have points values nearby but see if you can squeeze in the Gore Riders regiment at the expensive of an Ax and something else.

The Sniffs + Gore Riders + Krudger Chariot + Flagger w/ zap combo is great, as the Sniffs will be ahead of your deployment and can be shooting (along with zap) to soften up a unit, and the Gore Riders can hopefully charge said unit on turn 2 and rout it immediately, then the Sniffs can get stuck in with their CS1! Meanwhile the enemy has to react to you chewing on a flank and a big mean character causing mayhem everywhere.

Cheers for the advice judgedoug, as you can see from my sig it really helped

Congratulations on 2nd place! Do you have time to write out a summary of the games?