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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 17:22:38
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So im coming back from a year break and finding there is allot of new stuff...so here goes...
Hq
Farseer w/ singing spear and jetbike 115
Farseer w/ singing spear and jetbike 115
Elite
Wraithguard (5) w/ d cannon in wave serpent tl missile launcher and tl shurriken catapult 290
Wraithguard (5) w/ d cannon in wave serpent tl missile launcher and tl shurriken catapult 290
Troops
Windrider jetbike squadron (5) w/ 1 shuriken catapult 95
Windrider jetbike squadron (5) w/ 1 shuriken catapult 95
Windrider jetbike squadron (5) w/ 1 shuriken catapult 95
Windrider jetbike squadron (5) w/ 1 shuriken catapult 95
Fast
Vyper (3) w/ eldar missile launcher and tl shuriken catapult
Heavy
Wraithknight w/ suncannon scattershield and scatterlaser 300
Wraithknight w/ suncannon scattershield and scatterlaser 300
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 17:31:47
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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First off, do you mean shurkin cannon of the vypers and jetbikes? Second EML suck this edition, so for the serpents SL are the king, and for vypers SL or SC are good.
Also you would be better off taking the WK stock with HWCs rather then suncannon and scattershield.
With the points you save you can do this,
1) add 1 jetbike to each unit and add another shurkin cannons and a warlock on jetbike.
2) add shurkin cannons to serpents and vypers.
This would be a much better idea and would kill stuff easier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 17:53:55
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Executing Exarch
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You've missed off the points cost for the Spears, just FYI.
Seconding Arbiter on the EML's, versatility is nice but they're 3x the cost of other weapon options. Scatters on the Wave Serpents, and maybe Bright Lances on the Vypers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 18:03:18
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Screaming Shining Spear
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There is no reason to take WRJ in any number except 3, 6 or 9. Their firepower grows considerably with the addition if a 2nd ir 3rd Cannon.
It's not that EML is bad, it's got a very long range and is versatile, but it is waaaaay too costly. Switch it to Scatterlaser, or if you don't want to do that for some reason, then take a Brightlance.
EML CAN work on Vypers, due to their extreme range, but Vypers themselves aren't that good in the new codex.They work best with a Scatterlaser/Shuriken cannon or dual SC. Starcannons are the cheapest and can work, but only if your meta has a lot of TEQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 20:08:28
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ok after a major rework i have this
Hq
Farseer w/ spear runes of wardinf and bike 130
Spirit seer 70
Troops
Wraithguard x5 in serpent with sl an shuriken cannon 290
Wraithguard x5 in serpent with sl an.shuriken cannon 290
Bikers x6 w/ 2 cannons 122
Bikers x6 w/ 2 cannons 122
Bikers x6 w/ 2 cannons 122
Bikers x6 w/ 2 cannons 122
Fast
Warpspiders x10 190
Heavy
Wraithknight w/ 2 heavy wraith cannon 240
Wraithknight w/ suncannon shield and scatterlaser 300
This adds allot more troops, and allot more str 6, i think thus would be a better general list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 20:34:26
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Been Around the Block
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Looks good. I'd be tempted to find 40 points somewhere (maybe drop a couple of spiders) to drop a mantle of the laughing god onto the farseer. 2+ rerollable cover save means they enemy will have to work VERY hard for slay the warlord points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 22:13:00
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I wouldn't go for the Mantleseer.
In fact, I'd dump 1 squad of bikes to 3 and up one to 9. Then stick a Farseer into that big squad. Helps a lot with leadership and those 9 cannon shots Guided do a number on a lot of things. Those 3 jetbikes are a lot easier to hide and maneuver, in fact your enemy shouldn't be able to shoot at them at all.
The only other thing I'd recommend is to drop the 2nd Knight to stock and buy D-scythes for one WG squad. Unless you're going for the inv save if you want to make him your Warlord from the Iyanden supplement, then I'd always go stock, instead of Suncannon Knight. Automatically Appended Next Post: I wouldn't go for the Mantleseer.
In fact, I'd dump 1 squad of bikes to 3 and up one to 9. Then stick a Farseer into that big squad. Helps a lot with leadership and those 9 cannon shots Guided do a number on a lot of things. Those 3 jetbikes are a lot easier to hide and maneuver, in fact your enemy shouldn't be able to shoot at them at all.
The only other thing I'd recommend is to drop the 2nd Knight to stock and buy D-scythes for one WG squad. Unless you're going for the inv save if you want to make him your Warlord from the Iyanden supplement, then I'd always go stock, instead of Suncannon Knight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/10 22:47:32
Subject: working out the kinks eldar 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Dont plan on going with the supplement, at least not yet. With that being said im not a huge fan of the d scythes only cause i feel like for 10 points cheaper i get the sun cannon and an invuln on the wraith knight, which is much more survivable than 5 wg, though they are tough as nails as well.
I do like ur idea about the the bigger squad of bikes though.
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