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Poland

I'm going to play with CD versus Imperial Guards with much of tanks and dedicated transport. Tell me what do you think about my army list and tactic:

HQ
WARLORD: DP - Tz, 2mlvl, wings, armour, greater R, exalted R
Herald Tz - 3mlvl, exalted R (change for Grimoire), EL of Conjuration
Herald Khorne - Juggernaut, lesser R, greater R
Karanak

Troops:
11 Pink horrors
15 Bloodletters - BoB, Icon

Fast:
6 Fleshhound (with Herald in squad)

Elite:
3x Bloodcrushers - BoB, Icon (with Karanak in squad)

Heavy:
Soul Grinder - Khorne, Phlegm

Allies CSM:
DP - Khorne, wings, armour, black mace
10x cultist

I want to Deep Strike bloodletters and maybe Soul Grinder - it will depend how much place to hide will be on map. Herald of Tz will be supporter with Divination spells and Grimoire for DPs, so he will hiding as much as possible. If DPs will dying from shooting attacks I will fly out the battle and come back with vector strike and hope not to die in next shooting phase

And? What do you think?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/06 16:19:08


 
   
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Welllll it's a little bit of a mess. So in no particular order, here's some things for your consideration.

There's nowhere for your Tzeentch Herald to hide but in the unit of Horrors, or to literally hide behind terrain in your backfield. The horrors will die very quickly with such a juicy target in the unit, and if he's in your backfield then he won't be support your army as it advances. If you face an opponent with barrage weapons, he will die very quickly.

While I really like Karanak's special collar thing, he's really just an over costed hound. I'd drop him for more pups.

Being a daemon of Khorne does nothing for your Soul Grinder. If you're running Phlegm bombardment, you want to be a Daemon of Nurgle for Slow and Purposeful (so you can move and shoot Ordnance) and for Shrouded (better cover saves).

Seeing as you're already paying the cultist tax, consider Be'Lakor instead of the Khorne Prince. He may not be quite as killy, but the utility you will get out of having all of the Telepathy table at your disposal is invaluable (and he's still really killy)

Unless you're playing horde daemons, you're usually better off playing your troops conservatively. The bloodletters don't do this at all, and while they may live to chop something up, you'll most likely lose them in the process, thus handing your opponent one of your scoring units. I'd drop them for another unit of 11 horrors.

I'd drop the greater reward on the Khorne Herald for a Greater Locus of Fury. +2 A on the charge really makes sure that the hound's damage output is high enough that they don't lose combat (and take instability checks) even against harder targets.

Just some food for thought.

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I'd run three daemon princes, fateweaver and daemonettes



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November 2010 
   
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Poland

Thank you for answers. I need to think and build up a new army list
   
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Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

Dread Pawlo wrote:
Thank you for answers. I need to think and build up a new army list


Yeah, I would agree. Try to start with an objective: Are you trying to build the best list, a list made out of some models you really like the look/rules for, or a fluffy list made up Daemons of one or two gods?

Make a new thread once you've answered that question, and people will be able to better help you

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Poland

And what do you think about this army list?

HQ:
Kairos Fateweaver - warlord
Herald Tz - 2mlvl, conjuration
Karanak

Troops:
12 bloodletters - instrument + bloodreaper with g-reward
11 pink horrors - instrument

Fast:
10 Fleshhounds

HS:
Daemon Prince - Tz, armour, wings, mlvl 2, e-reward, g-reward
Soul Grinder - Khorne, Torrent

ALLIES:
DP - Khorne, wings, armour, black mace
10 chaos cultists

Bloodletters and Soul Grinder will deep strike. I pick Karanak, cuz herald on Juggernaut with locus and rewards is more expensive in points.

I dont have many more models, so thats why i dont have more pink horrors (I started collect khrone army 1st and than new rules came and nerf bloodletters and bloocrushers).

I cannot decide to put fleshhounds in 1 squad or in 2 squad (every with 5 hounds in).
Soul grinder with torrent is playable?
It's good idea to change bloodletter squad to 10 minions and take flamers instead?
   
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Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

Its alright. You have three powerful FMCs, but it still lacks any real synergy or direction, but thats natural because you're just using whatever models you have. Just field your strong units, play aggressively, and have fun!

Make sure you send out your two DPs and your flesh hounds together! If you send them out one at a time they will get destroyed. Overwhelm your foe with highly durable targets.

"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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