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So I've been playing mostly 800-1300pts games so far. I was thinking would I be able to increase the size of my army to 1850 that would make sense in any way out of the minis I have. This is what I came up with:



@HQ [ 2 ]

Chaos Lord
Mark of Khorne; Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Bolt pistol; Axe of Blind Fury; Chaos bike; Sigil of corruption

Be'lakor
The Blade of Shadow

@Troops [ 4 ]

10x - Chaos Space Marines
2x Plasma gun

10x - Chaos Space Marines
Mark of Slaanesh; Veterans of the Long War
Aspiring champ: LC; Icon of Excess; 1x Meltagun; 1x Flamer; Boltguns -> CCWs
Chaos Rhino

10x - Chaos Cultists

10x - Chaos Cultists

@Fast attack [ 2 ]

6x - Chaos Bikers
Mark of Khorne
2x Meltagun; Icon of Wrath

5x - Raptors
2x Meltagun

@Heavy support [ 1 ]

3x - Obliterators
Mark of Nurgle



Daemon Allies

@HQ [ 1 ]

Herald of Slaanesh
Exalted Locus of Beguilement; Exalted Reward (0: Grimoire)

@Troops [ 1 ]

20x - Daemonettes of Slaanesh



This list is using all the models I have except one Rhino, two Helbrutes, footslogging chaos lord/sorcerer and terminator chaos lord/sorcerer (last two are not ready yet). Haven't used Be'lakor yet because it costs so much. Gamers at my local gaming group play pretty casually so I don't know this might be able to do something. One option maybe would be to change Be'lakor to lead daemon detachment and use the points from herald to something else but the problem is I don't have much. And of course this is not optimal list even in my opinion but just wanted to get opinions if I'm yet able to enter the main game size of our gaming group. So... advice and suggestions are most welcome!

I would also appreciate any opinions about what to get next. My goal at the moment is to make an assault army with as many threats as possible that are gonna catch up to enemy quite fast with a little fire support. I've been thinking maybe soul grinder (no idea about mark, because I don't really know what purpose I want him to fill, either nurgle for shooting, slaanesh for cc or tzeentch for middle-ground?), havocs (with 4 autocannons or 2 autocannons & 2 ML's with flakk) or heldrake. Heldrake would be quite obvious choice because it's so good but on the other hand when thinking the goal of my army heldrake wouldn't really fit in there because it arrives by turn 2 at the earliest. On the other hand I would like to see it for myself how good it is and test it out. Any opinions?

Heldrakes fit in almost any army. You need more rhinos and maybe even a land raider. One rhino is just gonna give up first blood and probly won't even get a chance to move.

I like the idea your list is getting at but I think it falls short with the CSM themselves. Would you consider dropping them and the raptors for a big unit of flesh hounds?

That would assist in creating target saturation, not to mention the Flesh Hounds scout move will put your opponent on their heels to start the game.

EDIT: Hounds + Grimoire make for a tough combo.

Thank you both for your suggestions and advice!

the GOAT 765 wrote:Heldrakes fit in almost any army. You need more rhinos and maybe even a land raider. One rhino is just gonna give up first blood and probly won't even get a chance to move.

Reassembled my list a bit and put another rhino in there.

gardeth wrote:I like the idea your list is getting at but I think it falls short with the CSM themselves. Would you consider dropping them and the raptors for a big unit of flesh hounds?

That would assist in creating target saturation, not to mention the Flesh Hounds scout move will put your opponent on their heels to start the game.

EDIT: Hounds + Grimoire make for a tough combo.

Well flesh hounds are in the future plans but as you can see I mentioned the models I have and don't have them yet.


My list looks like this at the moment:

HQ
Chaos Lord: MoK, AoBF, Bike, Sigil, Melta bombs

TROOPS
10x - Chaos Space Marines: 2x Plasma gun, Chaos Rhino
10x - Chaos Space Marines: MoS, VotLW, Champ: LC, IoE, 2x Meltagun, Boltguns -> CCWs, Chaos rhino
10x - Chaos Cultists
10x - Chaos Cultists

FAST ATTACK
6x - Chaos Bikers: MoK, 2x Meltagun, IoW, Champ: Power Fist
5x - Raptors: 2x Meltagun

HEAVY SUPPORT
3x - Obliterators: MoN, VotLW


DAEMON ALLIES

HQ
Be'lakor

TROOPS
20x - Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Alluress: Greater Reward (0: Greater Etherblade)

TOTAL: 1849

I hope I'm gonna get a chance to test this list next tuesday. Let's see how it goes. Any feedback on this list as it currently stands?