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So for the journeyman league my shop is running I decided to go gorten highborn and now we have hit the 15 point level and I am set to go up against a Kreos 15 point list which is just his battle box with choir thrown in. So I have a few different lists since I have 7 points to play with. My main issue is my strategy is either advance with cover firingint then few at and win or wait for them. To come to me then feat and win, my issue is Kreoss is the same but with a longer range and his jacks are protected by the choir. First I have to take my battle box which contains
Gorten Grundback
3 grundback gunners 3 each
Ghordson driller 6
So here are my ideas for the 7 points
Alexia cannor 5
Piper 2
This one I will use alexia as a screener and a distrusted not to meantion of push ones to shove I can charge with her thralls not to meantion of he decides to despell then feat he will be left with 1 focus to allocate and with tough they can be hard to get rid of.
Min forge guard 5
Piper 2
Or
Min Nys 7
Or Tempest gun mages 6
Or lastly
Aiyana and holt 4
Hern and Jonne 3
So any advice would be appreciated and just to clarify the Kreoss list
Kreoss
Crusader
Vanquisher
Repenter
Min choir

Arcane Tempest gun mages with their officer is 8 points, base unit is 6 which would be a solid addition to your force as they offer a toolbox of abilities, a high DEF unit which contrasts nicely with your general low DEF dwarves, and they bring a CRA with an area of effect. Plus, their weapons are magical and will ignore his choir's ability to prevent shooting which will then let you either CRA one target or just push them back from your army to give you breathing room. Unfortunately, he will be dispelling your solid ground spell when he needs to feat. The forgeguard arent going to be that effective as they are very vulnerable to that menoth force since they want to stay in b2b with each other for the ARM bonus although they will be a great addition down the road. Alexia Ciannor would be able to gather any soul tokens at this point level so shes out. Also - Kreoss' dispel only costs 3, that leaves him with 4 focus to distribute to his jacks.

I think your best option would be the ATGMs, and Reinholdt the gobber. He can reload Gorten's gun (but not if you use both barrels) or give it luck when using both barrels. Besides, hes 1 pt, and there isnt much else to take for 1 pt.

I would use the gunners to screen your driller/gorten. They are more expendable than the other models in your list and being able to sac one of them in order to get the charge with your driller against one of his heavies could win you the game. Plus, keep in mind that none of his jacks have reach, which means if you place a rockwall in front of your models, he will not be able to engage you in melee.

Thanks for he advice just to clear it up though alexia makes enemy spells in her command cost double but I am starting to feel gun mages being my best option any suggestions on a second best though as getting the mages is a likely but not guaranteed prospect.

You could go
Aiyanna and Holt
Thor Steinhammer
Reinholdt

I'm thinking I might try out
Aiyana and Holt 4
E eiryss 3
Thinking since it is objectives I could force them up and take advantage of the stealth to harass then and possibly take out the choir as eiryss is one shooting then and holt is likely doing the same.