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+++ csm (1853pts) +++
+++ 1850pt Chaos Space Marines 6th Ed (2012) by SN Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++

Selections:

Chaos Space Marines 6th Ed (2012) by SN (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (255pts)

* Chaos Lord (125pts)
(Champion of Chaos, Fearless, Independent Character)
Ichor blood (5pts), Mark of Khorne (10pts), Veterans of the Long War (5pts)
* Terminator Armour (40pts)
Combi-bolter, Power Weapon


* Sorcerer (130pts)
(Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Psyker)
2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Mark of Tzeentch (15pts), Power Armour, Veterans of the Long War (5pts)


+ Elites + (330pts)

* Chaos Terminators (230pts)
(Deep Strike)
Mark of Khorne (15pts), Reaper Autocannon (25pts)
* Terminator (38pts)
Powerfist (7pts)
* Terminator (38pts)
Powerfist (7pts)
* Terminator (38pts)
Powerfist (7pts)
* Terminator (43pts)
Chainfist (12pts)
* Terminator Champion (33pts)
Combi Bolter, Power Weapon


* Helbrute (100pts)
(Crazed)
Multi-melta, Power fist


+ Troops + (710pts)

* Chaos Space Marines (245pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine (117pts), Flamer (5pts), Heavy Bolter (10pts), Mark of Tzeentch (20pts), Veteran of the long war (10pts)
* Aspiring Champion (48pts)
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist (25pts)
* Chaos Rhino (35pts)
(Repair)
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers


* Chaos Space Marines (250pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine (117pts), Mark of Tzeentch (20pts), Plasma Gun (15pts), Plasma Gun (15pts), Veteran of the long war (10pts)
* Aspiring Champion (38pts)
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Plasma Pistol (15pts)
* Chaos Rhino (35pts)
(Repair)
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers


* Chaos Space Marines (215pts)
9x Chaos Space Marine (117pts), Flamer (5pts), Mark of Tzeentch (20pts), Meltagun (10pts), Veteran of the long war (10pts)
* Aspiring Champion (53pts)
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Plasma Pistol (15pts), Power Weapon (15pts)


+ Fast Attack + (345pts)

* Chaos Bikers (175pts)
4x Chaos Biker (80pts), Mark of Nurgle (30pts), Plasma Gun (15pts), Veteran of the Long War (5pts)
* Chaos Biker Champion (45pts)
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon (15pts)


* Heldrake (170pts)
(Daemon, Daemonforge, It Will Not Die, Meteroric Descent)
Baleflamer


+ Heavy Support + (213pts)

* Havocs (213pts)
Flamer (5pts), 9x Havoc (117pts), Heavy Bolter (10pts), Lascannon (20pts), Mark of Tzeentch (20pts), Missile Launcher (15pts)
* Aspiring Champion (26pts)
Bolt Pistol, Combi-bolter (3pts)


I tried it out against tyranids (nid zilla list) and lost by one point due to line breaker any suggestions?

I would probably drop the mark of tzeentch on the havocs and the marines, a 6+ invul isn't that great for the points cost. Use those points for more bodies, or some obliterators. My two cents anyway.

Characters don't really need VOTLW, (not enough SM in the meta and high LD renders it moot) and Ichor Blood is always a bad point sink. If you are going to take MoK on a Lord, take the AoBF. It is too good. You have too many powerfists in the termies. If you want to kill other termies, a power axe is sufficient, and FREE, and the +1 str is sufficent to kill anything else. The chainfist is fine, and if you really want to smash av, another would not be remiss. I feel like you are missing out on the best part of CSM termies, which is cheap combi-weps. Take a bunch of flamers, so that, if your opponent wants to counter-charge to deny your Khorne bonus, you can hit them with a wall of fire. Likewise, turn the Reaper AC into a HF, because it is a lot of points that you wont get to shoot with for most of the game.

First, don't post individual point totals for wargear, upgrades etc. Against forum rules. E.G. Lord with stuff, XXX points is ok. Lord XX with mark of khorne XX, ichor blood X etc is not.

I second dropping the mark of T on anything that does not have an invul save off the bat. You can keep your sorcerer with the mark of Tzeenech, but take an aura of dark glory/sigil to have a 4++ or 3++, respectively. Also agree on basically everything Cardboardcrackhead said.

I suggest a spell familiar for your sorcerer since your level 3 and you will be throwing out a lot of powers.

Your mounted CSM troops should not take heavy weapons. Stick to a special weapon or 2 of your choice. Keep your champs cheap, the best would just be no upgrades but if you want a decent tac build take a power weapon+melta bombs. Axe will do most times a power fist is needed, and bombs help against tanks or MC's. Plasma pistols are generally too expensive for a weapon you will only shoot once or twice. If you still want a bit of plasma punch, take a combi plasma instead. Cheaper, with two shots at pistol range and the ability to shoot far if needed.

Havocs should usually take all matching weapons, or weapons with similar roles/ranges. Having too many guns means they will always be wasting some of the unit's potential. Ten is also overkill, as you really just want the special weapons+sarge.