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2014/05/11 17:44:26
Subject: Sternguard heavy salamanders drop pod list. Is 5 pods too few? Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I can not settle on a salamanders alpha strike list. I'm throwing quite a few around with very little helpful input. My favourite marine unit is sternguard, so I thought I'd try a build with as many as I could get in. I will only be dropping 3 pods on turn one. but there will be 30 marines climbing out. I will most likely combat squad everything. I think I can deal with almost everything. Against fliers I am weak, and will be relying on the master crafted meltas mostly. I want to start going to tournaments with this list. Let me know what you think and what you would change. A point to note, I am trying to stick to a theme as best as possible.
Here it is...
1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1500
HQ: Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts, Warlord)
1 Vulkan He'stan
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (11#, 330 pts)
9 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Grav x2 + Grav-gun x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Grav
1 Drop Pod
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (11#, 370 pts)
9 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Meltagun x7 + Meltagun x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Meltagun
1 Drop Pod
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 180 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Heavy Flamer x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 215 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Veteran Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1 + Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 215 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Veteran Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1 + Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant
1 Drop Pod
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2014/05/11 20:44:09
Subject: Sternguard heavy salamanders drop pod list. Is 5 pods too few? Trying to be competitive.
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Varying cities in the North
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Nice list, but seven combi-meltas per Veteran Squad? I'd say a meltagun and two combis is all you need, then maybe a heavy flamer or two in order to roast whatever comes out of the transports you're blowing up, having combat squadded them? I see what you're trying to do with the five man squad, but I feel combat squads give you more versatility, and save some points. It is just a waste of points having that many combi weapons, that you can only use once, especially when the best thing about the Sternguard is their special ammunition?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/05/11 20:45:34
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2014/05/11 20:58:11
Subject: Sternguard heavy salamanders drop pod list. Is 5 pods too few? Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Well the idea was simple. Combat squad down to two squads. Each can pop a different armoured target. I don't have to use all the melta shots in turn one, but I have the option to use them on other vehicles, TEQ or anything similar. Having Vulkan means they're master crafted too.
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I do want to fit an inquisitor in though.
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Or 2
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How about this? I lose 5 sternguard but gain 2 inquisitors....
1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1498
HQ: Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts, Warlord)
1 Vulkan He'stan
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 220 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Grav x2 + Grav-gun x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Grav
1 Drop Pod
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (11#, 320 pts)
9 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Meltagun x2 + Meltagun x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Meltagun
1 Drop Pod
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 180 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Heavy Flamer x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 205 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 205 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1
1 Drop Pod
HQ: Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (1#, 94 pts)
1 Ordo Malleus Inquisitor + Empyrean Brain Mines + Servo-skulls x2 + Power Armour + Nemesis Daemonhammer x1 + Upgrade to Psyker
HQ: Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (1#, 84 pts)
1 Ordo Xenos Inquisitor + Rad Grenades + Servo-skulls x2 + Power Armour + Upgrade to Psyker
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2014/05/12 09:34:01
Subject: Sternguard heavy salamanders drop pod list. Is 5 pods too few? Trying to be competitive.
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
Northern Texas, USA
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First of all, the inquisitors can't ride in the drop pods with the rest of your army so drop them; they'll die on foot. Back to your original list...
I think if you play a mission where you'll need to take and hold more than 2 objectives you'll be in trouble. I have no doubt that you'll be able to get first blood on a MC or vehicle, and I don't think 5 pods is too few. I like the grav but it may be tough to get within 9"... That's easy to bubble wrap against. I would stick to plasma for the range. Also, I don't like non combis on the Sternguard because you're dropping the special ammo that you're already paying for...
I would drop both vet sgt upgrades for the extra points, and would drop a few meltas to try and fill Vulkan's pod; the first wave is gonna be awesome.
Other than that, you don't have any anti air, so a stormtalon or two, or a Stormraven would be good.. But that depends on the meta in your area.
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2014/05/12 11:37:56
Subject: Re:Sternguard heavy salamanders drop pod list. Is 5 pods too few? Trying to be competitive.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Ok, how about this. I'll gain an inquisitor, keep the same number of marines (ish) but also gain a Storm raven for anti air.....
1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1497
HQ: Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts, Warlord)
1 Vulkan He'stan
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 210 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Meltagun x3 + Meltagun x1
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Meltagun
1 Drop Pod
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 180 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Heavy Flamer x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 205 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 205 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1
1 Drop Pod
Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 120 pts)
4 Tactical Squad + Meltagun
1 Sergeant + Melta Bombs
1 Drop Pod
Grey Knight Allies
HQ: Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (1#, 72 pts)
1 Ordo Xenos Inquisitor + Psychotroke Grenades + Rad Grenades + Servo-skulls x3 + Power Armour
Troops: Grey Knight Strike Squad (5#, 110 pts)
1 Justicar + Nemesis Daemonhammer
4 Grey Knight
Fast Attack: Stormraven Gunship (1#, 205 pts)
1 Stormraven Gunship
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The Idea being the knights and inquisitor start in the strom raven....
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