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I've played Cygnar for a few months, and while they're fun, I sometimes want to play a different playstyle. I'm thinking Khador right now, because I already have mercenary units that work for khador like boomhowlers and alexia and such. Is Khador a good second faction or does anyone else have a different recommendation? If you think Khador is a good choice, what would be a good list to take with butcher2 at about 25 points, keeping in mind I already own Boomhowlers, Alexia, Gorman, epic Eiryss, and alten ashley. I'd probably want to start with one jack, a unit, and butcher2 with a war dog. I don't know what unit or 'jack to take though.

Depending on how you run your Cygnar it may or not be a huge contrast. If you're running like the Nemos, with a focus on 'Jacks or lots of Mercs with generic buffs yeah it'll be different. Khador is going to be lots of infantry, with maybe one merc unit and a focus on buffs and casters with powerful end game. Cygnar kind of has broad reach in the styles of game it can play, so understanding your approach would be useful in knowing if Khador is really going to provide the contrast you're looking for.

I want an army that is a bit less of a glass hammer, and that seems to be something easy enough to get in Khador. I don't play Nemo in any form, and my two favorite casters are stryker2 and ehaley. Since I like estryker, I want to try butcher2 and maybe some doom reavers with UA as well as a kodiak and a war dog.

inferno445 wrote:
I want an army that is a bit less of a glass hammer, and that seems to be something easy enough to get in Khador. I don't play Nemo in any form, and my two favorite casters are stryker2 and ehaley. Since I like estryker, I want to try butcher2 and maybe some doom reavers with UA as well as a kodiak and a war dog.

Doom Reavers are like the glassiest of the glass hammer. Broadly speaking I think if you're playing with a lot of Stryker2 and eHaley, Khador may not feel remarkably different. If you're looking for a strong contrast with a sort tanky front line and more subtle casters I'm thinking Trollbloods, really. '

EDIT:

This is because eHaley is "Support troops, strong feat" and Stryker2 is "Crazy super-solo closer", very sort Khador spaces to be in. They both have DEF buffs too. I mean it's not identical, but Khador won't be a *radical* change from that.

Yea doom reavers are kinda like guided missiles really. The more durable stuff for khador is probably like the blackdragon pikeman or the clam jacks.

Butcher2's theme force can pile 3 doom reavers each with an escort, Fenris, and either a jugg or zerker warjack at 25pts, but thats not a tanky sort of list. I mean, they are spell immune and they all have tough due to the escorts but they are still vulnerable to ranged heavy lists. Once they reach melee, they will massacre all but the heaviest of targets. Honestly, it is pretty difficult to make a list that is "tanky" or difficult to deal damage to as you would need an armor of 17+ just to survive non boosted power10 hits. Iron fangs can sit at 18 (and black dragons can have 22 for one turn) but thats still very easy to take out for most models. Khador has alot of high DEF too though. Kayazy, winterguard, are both staple high DEF units.

Keep in mind also - Khador does not usually run a large number of merc units as we already have in faction units that fill those roles. Some solos are used frequently, but our units are the best part of our faction.

 Chongara wrote:

inferno445 wrote:
I want an army that is a bit less of a glass hammer, and that seems to be something easy enough to get in Khador. I don't play Nemo in any form, and my two favorite casters are stryker2 and ehaley. Since I like estryker, I want to try butcher2 and maybe some doom reavers with UA as well as a kodiak and a war dog.

Doom Reavers are like the glassiest of the glass hammer. Broadly speaking I think if you're playing with a lot of Stryker2 and eHaley, Khador may not feel remarkably different. If you're looking for a strong contrast with a sort tanky front line and more subtle casters I'm thinking Trollbloods, really. '

EDIT:

This is because eHaley is "Support troops, strong feat" and Stryker2 is "Crazy super-solo closer", very sort Khador spaces to be in. They both have DEF buffs too. I mean it's not identical, but Khador won't be a *radical* change from that.

I know that Khador won't be too much of a change, but I like the look of the faction and the fact they are still more survivable than Cygnar, even if not by much sometimes. I'm also interested in Skorne, Legion, or Farrow from hordes. In my store there aren't any Farrow players, 1-2 Skorne players, and 2-3 Legion players, so there aren't too many people in my area playing those factions.

I like Skorne since from what I've seen they're the opposite of Cygnar. Hit things with a stick and if that doesn't hurt it enough hit it with a bigger stick. If that fails squish them under an elephant.
I just like Legion because I do. I don't know how to explain it, I just think they're cool.
I like Farrow because they are also very different from Cygnar, even if they aren't competitive.

Skorne plays like someone looking to this game and sees Khador and thing "OMG I want an army of those big giant jacks wrecking face" and realizes that it is an infantry faction.

So I recommend both Skorne and if you like Farrow as well they work good for Skorne. Skorne Taskmasters make minion units better (especially gatormen posse, but give slaughterhousers a nice boost as well) as well as bone grinders allowing Skorne to play more risky with the Gladiator as they can cast it's animus if it dies. And the other reason to run Skorne is 2 words.... Bronze Back.