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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/30 22:41:14
Subject: Steamroller - 4 headed hydra help - Cygnar
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Storm Guard
Northampton, England
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I am competing in a four headed hydra Steamroller tournament.
For those who don't know, this is a four round tournament where you take a 35 + 5 point list and rotate 4 casters for each game.
My standard 35pt list would be :-
eHaley
Squire
Stormwall
ATGM + UA
Black 13th
eEiryss
Rhupert
Gorman
I'm wondering if this list is particularly useable with other casters? The tournament is 7 minute times turns so to use a list I am familiar with would be nice. Other casters I have are pStryker, pCaine, eCaine, pHaley, pNemo, N3mo, Sloane, Kraye, Siege.
If you don't think this is workable in such a setting other pieces I am well verses in are :-
Precursor Knights
Cylena & Nyss
Boomhowlers
Stormguards
Long Gunners + UA
Aiyana & Holt
Harlan
Tempest Blazers
Junior
Other things I have include mechanics, sword knights, stormblades, all non character jacks.
Any ideas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 07:05:36
Subject: Steamroller - 4 headed hydra help - Cygnar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ohh this seems like a fun tournament! Need to make a list that can work with multiple casters and deal with a large variety of armies.
Stormwall is a great choice here: works with just about anyone and is very flexible.
For casters, eHaley is a given: she can tackle just about anything. Seige would be a good ace in the hole for when you see a lot of stacked armor (he's also an ace in the hole vs mass Stealth), but he'll miss Reinholt if you don't include him. pHaley is a strong counter to certain lists that are already slow or that require running/charging to get up. eCaine would round out the best of Cygnar's casters, the only problem being that he doesnt mesh with the Stormwall in the slightest.
Low points and no lancer means pStryker is pretty much out. I like N3mo, but he requires a kind of specialized list (storm callers, a firefly). Kraye and Sloan are in similar boats (they need a few more jacks). Maybe pCaine? He hard counters a few of the spammier lists out there with his feat, he can buff his army pretty nicely, and he can do quite a bit of damage himself at 35 pts.
For units, I like the Blazers. Very flexible, they can deal with a lot of different threats and play the scenario game with their speed (up to 23'' per turn). They are improved by a blur, snipe, decelleration, and deadeye. They can take pretty good advantage of the feats of Seige and pHaley. Also a low model count, good for timed turns.
I also think you might consider Rangers, they can simply improve a lot of the Cygnaran army and aren't terribly inefficient at infantry removal in their own right. Hard to find the place for them at 35pts though.
B13 is an obvious choice for efficiency, flexibility, and anti-Stealth.
eEiryss is similarly a pretty safe bet: she counters a lot of the more broken things in the game.
Gorman is nice vs colossal and prowling smoke.
A&H are also a nice utility, magic weapons vs Menoth, damage buffs vs Skorne, Khador, or Trolls.
8 points for the ATGM+UA is rough at 35, especially since their utility is pretty niche (stealth infantry removal, pushing things).
Is Rhupert worth it without a big tarpit for him to work with?
Sample List:
Casters: eHaley, Seige, pHaley, pCaine
-Stormwall (19)
-Squire (2)
-Tempest Blazers 5x (10)
-B13 (4)
-Gorman (2)
-eEiryss (3)
Total: 40 pts
Close to your list, switching out the ATGM+UA and Rhupert for the Blazers. They are mot TAC, imo. Can handle light infantry spam with pCaine, armor or stealth with Seige, balanced with eHaley, and speed-dependent with pHaley. Only Siege presents any real direct assassination threat (limited without his gobber side kick) however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 21:35:01
Subject: Steamroller - 4 headed hydra help - Cygnar
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Storm Guard
Northampton, England
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You chose every caster I am going with! We are parallel minds.
I think I am going to stick with my standard list and those casters, the reason being I find the ATGM to toolbox a little more than the Blazers, electroleap can be delish but I find when people break their def, 5 boxes or not, they're fried. Working with the caster selection though, they can either keep them alive or make them that much more versatile y'see.
Thankyou for the caster ideas though, I'm glad I'm on a track people seem to support.
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Cygnar (133) | 82% painted - Menoth (65) | 92% painted
Mercenaries (52) | 53% painted - Circle Orboros (42) | 92% painted - Minions (20) | 0% painted
Systems I play : Warmachine, Hordes, Star Wars X-Wing, Star Trek Attack Wing, Malifaux & Bolt Action.
Listen to my band : http://tigerstyleuk.bandcamp.com | Follow my wrestling promotion http://www.goodwrestling.com |
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