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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/26 23:33:36
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Jonathan Wilson here, creator of Tabletop Props.
"Tabletop Props is committed to providing detailed and affordable props and terrain on the miniature scale"
Currently on Kickstarter, Tabletop Props is starting small with the Covered Wagon as their first offering and introducing multiple stretch goals, each with a new, fully painted prop.
This first collection is based on the theme “Into the Wild” and features nature terrain, a tent, and more, but the crown jewel is the Covered Wagon. The Covered Wagon is actually composed of 16 smaller, removable pieces. Barrels, bags, lanterns, and buckets can all be removed. The cover comes off the wagon to reveal anything held inside and the entire wagon top can be removed as well to reveal a fully detailed wagon bed beneath.
Variant paint jobs introduce the gypsy or battle-worn wagon, but they also offer a primer coat wagon ready for your custom paint job.
Each Tabletop Prop is meticulously crafted to be extremely detailed and affordable. These pieces are being professionally made and painted by an established toy company through injection molding. The initial mold cost for models of this quality is pretty expensive, but once complete individual production becomes very affordable.
The Covered Wagon is completely ready for development. The prototype is done, the paint is done. Tabletop Props simply needs to fund the final mold and production can begin. With this mold paid for and the Covered Wagon available for purchase, more molds can and will be made for additional Tabletop Props.
Check out the Kickstarter and tell me what you think! Ask me anything!
Kickstarter Page: http://kck.st/1lkGAlg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/27 13:40:04
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I like that.
It strikes me that with a bit of artistic licence you could make parts for nearly any general four wheel waggon from the late middle ages to early 20th century.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/27 13:55:17
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That's a beautiful piece! I hope this funds!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/27 15:46:15
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Agree. That has many uses and the 4 wheel wagon base can be used in a wide range of things. Not really a fan of the papercraft or water tiles. I do like the tent and fire pit.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/27 15:49:52
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/28 07:57:31
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Money where my mouth is, I've pledged on the wagon. And I'll pledge on the tent if you get to it as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/29 05:48:29
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Injection molds? Are we talking styrene or PVC?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/30 12:56:37
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Jonathan with Tabletop Props here.
Some of all plastics, depending on the piece. Most are polyurethane, the same stuff used for skateboard wheels. Some pieces have multiple plastics; for instance, the Covered Wagon is PU, but the wheels are PVC (because they hold true round better).
Thanks for the question!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/30 13:32:23
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Without wishing to cause offence or be a troll, I think you should've gone for a lower goal for your project (say 5k?) and worked your way from there. That way you could start rolling out the stretch goals sooner and build support more easily for your project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/30 19:44:04
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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angelofvengeance wrote:Without wishing to cause offence or be a troll, I think you should've gone for a lower goal for your project (say 5k?) and worked your way from there. That way you could start rolling out the stretch goals sooner and build support more easily for your project.
I'm hoping/trying to build this without having to rely on business loans of any type. Believe me, I've tried to get the price down as much as possible. I'll still be losing money on this project if/when it funds. That funding goal isn't because I'm hoping to by a new car or anything, this is simply the minimum amount needed to actually build the product.
The covered wagon is extremely finely crafted by an established toy company, not 3D printed and hand-painted in my garage. Models of this quality can't be made for $5000.
I hope you can understand, I'm trying to bring to our hobbies a top quality product at an affordable price. This doesn't come cheap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/01 08:25:07
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well, at $25 each, you'd have to sell 1200 of the wagons just to reach the initial goal. For a single piece of terrain, that seems like a very high number. If you are saying that you'd still make a loss at that, maybe the project just isn't viable?
Have you considered starting off with some simpler terrain with a lower startup costs, just to get things rolling? Then you could later build up from that.
I'm sure there's a reasonably sized market for terrain and the price per item isn't bad, you just have to sell far too many of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/01 23:06:24
Subject: Tabletop Props (Official)
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Avian wrote:Well, at $25 each, you'd have to sell 1200 of the wagons just to reach the initial goal. For a single piece of terrain, that seems like a very high number. If you are saying that you'd still make a loss at that, maybe the project just isn't viable?
Have you considered starting off with some simpler terrain with a lower startup costs, just to get things rolling? Then you could later build up from that.
I'm sure there's a reasonably sized market for terrain and the price per item isn't bad, you just have to sell far too many of them.
That's about the same math I came up with. There are multiple plans of action already set up and in motion. I'd like to start with the best/easiest and work toward the others. The goal is actually to produce sets of 7 miniatures, but that funding goal is over $100,000. Once the molds are paid for, these become very, very affordable. It all comes back to "It takes money to make money".
Thanks for your interest!
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