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Hey, I was looking at the list i currently use and I wanted to try and eliminate some of the fat in it. Mainly my useless assault terminators and Dreadnought.  As lists go this one is pretty successfull, though if that is from a lack of viable opponents or some other reason Idont know (it cant really be that good a list, can it?).  Anyways I wanted to get some opinions on what to do to make this list more efficient and tournament viable.

Salamanders Chapter Traits are in use...

Librarian Codicier 134

            Fear of Darkness

Iron Halo

Frag & Krak Grenades

Bolt Pistol

Librarium Command Squad (9) 216

            Vet. Sergeant w/Power Fist & Combat shield

            Meltagun & Flamer

            Drop Pod

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Chaplain Reclusiarch 104

            Terminator Honours

            Frag & Krak Grenades

            Bolt Pistol

Reclusiam Command Squad (9) 211

            Vet. Sergeant w/Power Fist

            Meltagun & Flamer

            Drop Pod

 

Terminator Assault Squad (5) 215

            Lightning Claws

Furious Charge

 

Terminator Squad (8) 370

            2xAssault Cannon

            2xChainfist

 

Dreadnought 140

            Assault Cannon

Extra Armour

            Drop Pod

 

Tactical Squad (10) 230

            Vet. Sergeant w/Power Fist

            Meltagun & Flamer

            Drop Pod

 

Tactical Squad (10) 221

            Vet. Sergeant w/Power Weapon

            2xFlamer

            Drop Pod

As the list stands now I am using running 51 infantry and one Dread with 5 pods.  I really like the number of Tacticle marines I have and i really am mainly conserned with the Dreadnought and Assault Termies.  They Never really do anyhting exept die horribly.  And while they do tend to draw the enemies fire, that simply is not enough.  I want to replace them with something that can fight back with more of a punch that what ive got right now.

I would make the following changes:

Drop the Reclusiarch +104

Make his Command squad a normal drop Tac, and add the 10th member -19

Drop the Dread +140

Drop the Termie Assault Squad +215

Add another Melta/Flamer Drop Squad -230

The leftover 210 points can go toward either an Assault squad (to give you a little mobility after everything has dropped), or another Drop Tac squad (mirror the x2 flamer squad, drop a squad member to sqeeze it under your cap).

This gives you an additional 12-14 bodies, and should make the overall list a bit more resiliant.

KW

I like the idea of adding a couple more drop squads, however getting that many models may be a problem for me. I definatly agree with adding another Drop Squad, but perhaps instead of mirroring the Double Flamer Squad I should Make another Terminator Squad (part of this is a terminator fetish I have).

Ok here is the new list...

Epistolary Librarian 152

Bolt Pistol
Iron halo
Frag Grenades
Teleport Homer

Fear of Darkness
Librarium Command Squad (9) 216
Vet. Sergeant w/Power fist & Combat shield
Meltagun & Flamer
Drop Pod

Terminator Squad (6) 285
2xAssault Cannon
Chain fist

Terminator Squad (6) 285
2xAssault Cannon
Chain fist

Tactical Squad (10) 230
Vet Sergeant w/Power Fist
Meltagun & Flamer
Drop Pod

Tactical Squad (10) 230
Vet Sergeant w/Power Fist
Meltagun & Flamer
Drop Pod

Tactical Squad (10) 230
Vet Sergeant w/Power Fist
Meltagun & Flamer
Drop Pod

Tactical Squad (10) 221
Vet Sergeant w/Power Weapon
2xFlamer
Drop Pod

Much nastier, give it a whirl and see how it performs.

Used the list today. Positivly Destroyed a DA player in a Lev2 cleanse mission. Lost the Librarian, his squad and all of the 2xflamer squad, and one of the terminator squads but i completly ahnillated 18 DW termies, a full tact squad and a Librarian plus Dread with my force. All he had left were three 6 man missile teams and 5 scouts contesting my table quarter.