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Fresh-Faced New User




Okay, playing around with some Cygnar arrangements with Kara Sloan.

List 1

Kara Sloan
-Hunter
-Hunter
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages
-Officer
-Charger
Black 13th
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-2 Stormgunners
Arlan Strangeways
Reinholdt

List 2

Kara Sloan
-Defender
-Hunter
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-1 Stormguner
Max Storm Lances
Katherine Laddermore
Reinholdt

List 3

Kara Sloan
-Hunter
-Hunter
-Squire
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages
-Officer
-Charger
Black 13th
Arlan Strangeways
Goblin Tinker
Allison Jakes
-Sentinel
Reinholdt

Now I do realize that list 2 might be less awesome, but I like it's unconventional approach, and feel it's a fun combined arms approach. Also with 3 I am sure there will be raised eyebrows at the inclusion of Allison Jakes. I know the argument will be that a journeyman warcaster is far better, but big part is I like her model a lot. Then I justify her rules as it provides some melee assistance to a primarily shooty force. So with my admission on the sub-optimal nature of list 2 and 3, any comments and critiques are welcome.
   
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Thornton-Cleveleys, England

I have to admit I prefer list two for a several reasons

1. You have a Heavy Warjack in the Defender which apart from the ranged game can be pushed into melee if required.
2. You have a screen for your Stormblades in terms of Stormlances.

If you did run List 2 I would make some changes though

1. Drop the Stormlances to minimum and drop Laddermore
2. Use the points to get the Journeyman Warcaster for the Arcane Shield to help keep the them alive and the Stormblade Captain for all the lovely things he brings when you are running multiple units of Stormknights. Which leaves 4 points left which good be used for either the Black 13th or Holt and Aiyana.

just my 2 pence

   
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Okay some new list ideas, now that I have a couple more games under my belt, and some new options...

List 1

eCaine
-Thunderhead
Tempest Gun Mages
-Captain
-Hunter
Black 13th
Arlan Strangeways
Journeyman Warcaster
-Minuteman

List 2

Stryker3
-Stormclad
Max Storm Lances
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-3 Stormgunners
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution
Katherine Laddermore

List 3

Kara
-Hunter
-Thunderhead
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-2 Stormgunners
-Stormclad
Arlan Strangeways
Reinholdt

List 4

eCaine
-Defender
-Squire
Arcane Gun Mages
-Officer
-Hunter
-Hunter
Black 13th
Arlan Straneways
Journeyman Warcaster

Thoughts and Comments?
   
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion






Brisbane

Big things that jump out;

List 1
1. Junior with Minuteman is a swing and a miss in my opinion. You want Minuteman riiiiight up there. You want him popping flak and making lightly armoured infantry cry. That doesn't mix well with your incredibly fragile arcane shield on a stick sadly.
2. No tarpit

List 2
1. No experience with Stryker3, so nevermind

List 3
1. Bit of an odd list for her, but I see what you've done with her. Her feat and deadeye could be a great combo to get thunderhead assassinating the enemy caster. I'd say look for a unit with pinpoint accuracy who can remove anything blocking the thunderhead's line. To be honest, stormblades may be that unit. It's actually a really interesting list.

List 4
Far too many jacks, and still no ability to hold zones. I'd recommend swapping a hunter and the defender. This is so the defender gets on the ATGM. Why would I put the Defender there? Gun mage captain boost to hit. If you get 3 dice to hit? Crit brutal and Arlan's power booster for 4 dice damage. Against squishy casters, you can use eCaine to actually remove the chaff in front and then put one shot on the caster or so, and then use the defender as the actual assassination tool. It's surprising how often people ignore the defender's LoS to their caster when eCaine is on the table. That is, until you hit them with a POW15 + 4D6 for the first time

I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... 
   
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Thornton-Cleveleys, England

Ok some thoughts

List 1

eCaine
-Thunderhead
Tempest Gun Mages
-Captain
-Hunter
Black 13th
Arlan Strangeways
Journeyman Warcaster
-Minuteman


There are better casters to run Thunderhead and eCaine is not one of them and especially when you are not running lots Electically immune troops, so there is always that risk of frying your own models and as heavies go he is rather pillow fisted. If you are going to run a Heavy with him then Ol' Rowdy is a better just because of the Focus efficiency he brings. If Thunderhead is not the right Jack to use on eCaine then the same can be said with the minuteman on Jnr. His low CTRL range means that you are limiting all it's tricks as there is a good chance of it getting of his CTRL range. I feel there is a few staple missing from this list in the form of a Squire, Reinholdt and Eiryss.

List 2

Stryker3
-Stormclad
Max Storm Lances
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-3 Stormgunners
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution
Katherine Laddermore


Some things on this list - No Pathfinder, No Arcane Shield. The list is really calling out for the Stormblade Captain(s) for the support he brings for multiple Stormknight units and even Runewood to be able to give Pathfinder to Stryker3

Kara
-Hunter
-Thunderhead
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-2 Stormgunners
-Stormclad
Arlan Strangeways
Reinholdt


Stormblades are great and hit like a ton of bricks as longs as they get there. With no screen for them and Kara brining nothing to the table to protect them then they are going to die in droves as they trudge across the table. Also marshaling one of our heaviest hitters to them I feel is a bit of a waste.

List 4

eCaine
-Defender
-Squire
Arcane Gun Mages
-Officer
-Hunter
-Hunter
Black 13th
Arlan Straneways
Journeyman Warcaster


This looks more like a pCaine list tbh and would probably work better as a pCaine list

   
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Then how about....

List 1

Stryker3
-Stormclad
-Squire
Max Storm Lances
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-2 Stormgunners
Katherine Laddermore
Stormblade Captain

List 2

Kara Sloan
-Hunter
-Charger
-Stormclad
Black 13th
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-3 Stormgunners
Journeyman Warcaster
Reinholdt
Stormblade Captain

List 3

eCaine
-Stormclad
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages
-Officer
-Hunter
Stormblade Infantry
-Officer and Standard
-2 Stormgunners
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution
Journeyman Warcaster

To add a little bit of information, the people I play are a Khador, a Cryx, couple Legion, a Circle, and a Menoth. Khador uses pSorcsha, Cryx uses Venethrax, Goreshade the Bastard, and pDenny. Legion players use eVayl, pThagrosh, and Rhyas. Circle uses Boulder, and Menoth uses Kreoss.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/21 15:36:58


 
   
 
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