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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/30 22:11:49
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Basecoated Black
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Hi all,
I would like to introduce my 15mm Field of Glory army with the elements that I completed so far.
I hope this will entice people to give the scale a try, as one can achieve nice results (admittedly not as detailed as 28mm) when using some good suppliers such as Xyston and Corvus Belli.
Field of Glory (or any other game with DBX basing) is one of those games were skill will always triumpf over luck. it is a very tactical game, but at the cost of taking up to 3h to finish a game. Obviously there are alterantives that use the same basing: The DBX family, the new english translation of L'Art de la Guerre. If that fails one can also put together some bases and form an Impetus sized unit.
My initial theme was "Hannibal in Spain", but I will also paint up contingents of troops that were used during the campaigns in Italy.
The entire army so far:
Onwards to some scenic shots of separate troop types:
Let us start with the Liby-Phoenician Spearmen:
Then we obviously also need some Numidians:
We may not forget the field camp:
Much more, such as pictures, tactical considerations, historical background, step-by-step tutorials etc. can be found on my blog:
http://daggerandbrush.wordpress.com/
I'll be back with more.
Cheers
DaggerAndBrush
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/31 05:21:36
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Absolutely stunning! 15mm is a brilliant scale for that period (or any period really), though 10mm is my go-to scale for ancients and medieval at the moment.
Thanks for sharing. Gonna have to check out your blog.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/31 21:59:22
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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They look absolutely brilliant!
Well done!!
15mm is good for mass battles because of space and cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/01 01:20:42
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Thank you. If I would start out with Ancients again I would potentially go for 10mm, as there is a lot of good stuff out there or even 6mm. However, 15mm can't be bet for price, availability and detail, that is if one prefers metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/02 15:28:07
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Great evocative photos. This is the kind of thing that draws people into war gaming. Hat's off!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/02 18:42:26
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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It's difficult to believe thats 15mm, the detail is amazing, well done. I have never played 15mm but I can imagine that its a great "tactical" scale. Lovely pictures, thanks for sharing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/08 23:37:11
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Thanks a lot. It is a very good scale for grand tactical rule systems. Next on my list to take proper photos of are Iberian Scutarii.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/23 23:32:17
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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I finally came around to take some sensible pictures of my Iberian Scutati. Early works they are, but they sure add some colour to any Carthaginian army. As always you find more pictures, historical considerations and some painting advise on my
Blog.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/24 16:37:50
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Excellent picture
Where are those trees from? The shorter ones, I mean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/24 23:04:56
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Thank you.
The trees are all hand made using wire, polyfiller and MiniNatur foliage nets.
The oak tree on the camp picture is also hand made, but features a carved bark structure and finer seamoss ramifications. In some point I'll redo the olive trees and give them a nicer bark.
Here is a link to a tutorial I wrote some time ago on how to make the oak tree, but you can easily suit it to your needs.
http://daggerandbrush.wordpress.com/2014/08/04/winter-is-coming-realistic-trees-for-wargaming-and-dioramas-part-i/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 18:13:40
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Fantastic, I have a 10mm Carthaginian Hannibal in Italy FOG army I play. Tough as nails that one. I love your brushwork, very nice detail indeed!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/29 21:10:51
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Thank you RazorMind. I often run a list based on the Mainland Italy option. The Veterans are very good. I experiment a bit with maximising cavalry in combination with the Veterans, Gauls and Spaniards. So far I never had a lot of cavalry, but I think I have to get historical to be more successful. What army composition do you go for normally?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 11:01:04
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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I did add some more details to my Field Camp. I might add some more modules with fortifications and so on. More pictures and a detailed step-by-step tutorial can be found on my blog:
Field Camp Tutorial Part II
A scenic picture to give you an idea what I added in the meantime:
And a detail shot of the dice players and foodstuff:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/06 03:10:23
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Hi,
I did again add to my collection and finished some Celtiberians. These guys were known as fierce warriors and used by the Carthaginians as mercenaries in what is today Southern France and Africa.
I went for a winter theme this time and enhanced the shot with a snowflake layer mask. Everything else is unaltered.
if you are interested how to take such scenic photos you'll find a step-by-step tutorial here:
How to take senic photographs of miniatures
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/07 07:48:25
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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I have the same army(yes):
Corvus Belli Carthaginians, Numidians, Iberians/Celtiberians, and Gauls.
And, they are painted almost exactly like yours (with a more regular appearance to the Poeni/Libyan Spearmen/Hoplites' shields).
I should get pictures of them to post.
I am trying to stick with 15mm for Historical, but no one makes Dark Ages Historicals in 15mm that have anywhere NEAR the detail of Corvus Belli. And that sort of turns me off.
Since I can print 3D masters in 15mm as easily as in 28mm, I may just print a few 15mm Dolls to use to sculpt some 15mm Saxons, Goths, Franks, etc. (Early Dark Ages before getting around to Normans and Vikings).
But... As for this army: Beautiful. Is that a few Xyston figures mixed in with the Corvus Belli?
I will probably get a few of the Xyston figures for my Armored Gauls and Lusitanians(Iberians).
MB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 01:37:22
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Hi BeAfraid,
thank you for your comment. Yes. I mixed Corvus Belli and Xyston here. There is a bit of a size difference, but it really doesn't show much.
I would be delighted to see your army. Alwasy good to get inspired. The best thing about Carthaginians is the mix of troop types and different ethnic groups all united by a charismatic leader.
Did you have a look at Khurasan's Dark Age offerings? I recall they have some good ranges. You might be able to use their Vikings/Norse as a basis for your sculpting efforts. This range is quite realistically proportioned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:04:53
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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I have seen khurasan's stuff, and it is not bad, as Dark Ages go, but I not yet seen anything they make that really jumps out at me.
I have digital dolls I can both pose, and then 3D print to use as the basis for a miniature.
Doing 15mm stuff digitally can be a pain, given that I lack a cintiq (and without one, some proportional exaggerations needed to do miniatures is very difficult).
And, given that I am doing Middle-earth figures (well, obviously not calling them that when I go to sell them, unless I can miraculously get GW's Middle-earth License next year - or, rather, re-negotiate a license with the Tolkien Estate), I may just go ahead and do Dark Ages stuff in 28mm, and leave the Pre-Byzantine era to 15mm, given how many Corvus Belli and Xyston figures I have for that period.
Of course, I may just strip a Xyston and/or Corvus Belli miniature down to it's nude body, scan it, and then set that up as a pose-able digital doll to create Perfectly sculpted matches for both lines.
It would be nice to have some Early Achaemenid Persians, and Early Hoplite Greeks, as well.
I was going to replace my Essex Camillan and Polybian Romans with Xyston's figures, but they are just so freaking huge (really they are 20mm figures - kinda. The basic doll is only about 17mm tall, but they over-applied media on the helmets and soles of the sandals - the sandals are nearly a whole 1mm thick themselves). But they are gorgeous. I am pissed that Corvus Belli did not do any Camillan/Polybian figures, because they would have rocked (and fit in with the other Roman Ranges).
I also have the Mirliton Early Italians (Etruscans, Latins, and Romans). They fit in nicely with the Corvus Belli figures, and some of them work as Bruttians or Campanian Light Infantry for Carthaginians.
I'll get out the Carthaginians and Romans, since I am trying to get a game at a local game shop in the next few weeks with them anyway, and take some photos (I think I may need to glue some shields back on, come to think of it).
And, you should have a look at Hoplon for these. It is a DBx set of rules, but has proper Morale rules, and elements can fight either individually, but work far better in units (which they are supposed to be organized into). FoG liberally "Borrowed" from the game when it was being created.
MB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:07:59
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Wow, awesome stuff, that "in the snow" pic!
Can you give us some details on your camera/settings setup etc?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 22:53:06
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Hi Ratius,
glad you like it. There is a two part tutorial on my blog linked above that describes how I go for taking such scenic pictures.
The setup is as follows:
It is pretty basic. All arranged on a kitchen table close to a ranch slider. Photo background and white foam board opposite the light source to reflect light back on the scene.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 21:55:35
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Hi all,
time for another update. I made some sensible pictures of my Celtiberians. Per usual you find a detailed historical background, tactical considerations in FoG and some notes on painting them on my blog:
Celtiberians - They died with obstinate resolution
Naturally a scenic teaser photo is in order. More pictures (including close ups of all six stands) can be found on the blog.
Click to enlarge:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/18 20:33:22
Subject: Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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That is a very good write-up. I understood that chain mail was invented by the Celts but it may not have spread throughout the areas inhabited by Celts for various reasons.
It is such a pity that Corvus Belli have given up their 15mm historical ranges. I have a small Early Imperial Roman army of their figures and would have liked to expand it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/23 06:20:52
Subject: Re:Later Carthaginians in 15mm - An army for Field of Glory
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Thank you very much. Glad you liked the historical background section. I am not sure about the reasons for using pectorals, but it could be as simple as the cost of mail. However, naturally the archeological evidence is sparse as it is, so saying that they did not use mail with certainty is impossible, rather it was not the preferred defensive weapon at least in Spain. On campaign I could see mail spreading fast, especialy after the Trebia and Cannae. There are some depictions of warriors with something that could be mail, could be scale armour, body paint or simply artisitc convention to depcit a ritual scene.
It is true that it would have been nice if they just continued with improved castign quality. Some of the casts I got were less than perfect. I think Forged in Battle fits in quite nicely here and Baueda's new kicksatrter might also add some variety.
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