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ok so my university host a kinda con like thing and this year their is going to be 2 warmachine tournament a 50 point steam roller (will ask for help in a different post) and a 25 point team tournament and this is what i need help on right now.
so some thing about this tournament
-25 points
-death clock
- you don't know you partner their are randomly assigned
-1 list

my first question is gators or retribution

my ret list would look like this

Rhan +6 TIER 2
-phoenix-10
-discordia-10

battle mages-5

min halberdiers-4
-ua-2

arcanist-free

31/31

or Gators

Rask +6
black hide-9
blackhide-9
-snapper-3

wrong eye and snapjaw-9

faralgeist--1

31/31

any help and ridicule are welcome

Rahn at 25pts wants an Arc Node, but probably has to make do with one at that point lvel - so the Phoenix is a good choice. He pretty much never wants Discordia (Disco is a great jack, but has zero Synergy with Rahn despite being his character jack). I would drop Disco from this list to start with, which gives you points to play with.

I generally prefer Sentinels over Halberdiers with Rahn, but both work well - either way you want full units (which you can get with the points from Disco). Battle Mages + some form of punchy unit, then add solos to fill out the points.

The Rask list looks really weird - thats at least 2 more heavies than I would expect to see in a 35pt list and its usually more heavies than you would see at 50pts (commonly see one Wrastler, Bull Snapper + WE and SJ at 50pts). 9pts gets you a Posse, who are some of the best heavy infantry in the game. 25pts gets you 2 Posse, a Wrastler, a Snapper and a 1pt solo.