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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 14:23:40
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Hey all,
Now I've been using the 30k crusade army list for a while now and absolutely love the mass tactical squads you can use. But I want to know if the breaching squads are a viable unit as I want to make a Roman style shield wall for my legion. Would this be worthwhile or would another 20 man tactical squad perform better overall?
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 15:01:21
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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I like 20 man tacticals with an apothecary. I am not sold on the breachers even if they fit the fluff for my IW.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 15:35:56
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Drakhun
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I'd also say Tacticals with Apothecary. Boarding shields are pretty mneh to be honest.
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DS:90-S+G+++M++B-IPw40k03+D+A++/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Warmachine MKIII record 39W/0D/6L
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:20:16
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There are, IMO, two answers to your question:
1) If you want that shield wall bad enough, then take the Breachers- you'll probably have more fun with them.
2) If you want to maximize the capability of your list, then Tacs are probably a better choice.
Other thoughts: 20-man Tacs with an Apothecary are nice, but suffer from one, incredibly important flaw:
They only fit in Spartan Assault Tanks.
Now, if you're going to footslog them, then yeah, this doesn't matter. But if you want to throw them into a transport, and still get the Apothecary, then you'll need to either bring:
1) A Spartan in HS, which is suboptimal due to all the other amazing and more generally useful HS options
2) Pay a 10-man Termi tax and then have the Tacs jack the Spartan, which is also suboptimal (and you might as well actually invest in the Termies too)
3) Take 19 Tacs instead of 20, and then add the Apoth.
Option 3 allows you to then throw the squad into a Storm Eagle or a Kharybdis Assault Claw. Now the Kharybdis does have the same issue as bringing as Spartan- namely that it's only really being used to bring a big blob of bodies that aren't the killiest thing around, but it does allow them to be dropped anywhere on the board, potentially Turn 1.
FA isn't nearly as crowded, so a Storm Eagle offers a fast-moving aircraft. You'll not really want to bring more than one Tac squad in this fashion though, as FA is also where Xiphons and Primaris Lightnings are, and those are some of best anti-air the Legion list has (Deredeos and Mortis Contemptors are also included as "amazing AA").
FA also has Legion Jetbikes, which are badass.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/06 18:20:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:39:12
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Which Legion do you play? If you really like the Breacher squads, the Imperial Fists have an improved version.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 20:30:02
Subject: Legion Tactical Squad or Legion Breaching Squad?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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I'm world eaters, so not exactly fitting with the fluff but I wanted them to be a group of veterans from the old War Hounds legion.
And I'm still probably going to do the shield wall, but if another tactical squad in either a Spartan or storm eagle will perform better, then I think it'll just be a ten man squad rather thAn the full 20 man unit. Cheers for replying guys!
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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