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Made in us
Storm Lance





I play Yu Jing and I'm starting Aleph. One of my opponents always brings two Croc Men to the field. I'm having trouble dealing with their TO Camo and their minelaying abilities.

I'd like to know what strategies you guys have for dealing with this? Here's a tentative 250pt list to try and deal with them.

Here's one tentative army I'm willing to try.

Yu Jing
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Group 1 6 0 0
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (11)
ZHANSHI (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ZHANSHI HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
GŬILÁNG Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (25)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
HSIEN Lieutenant HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)

Group 2 5 0 2
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (5)
CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (5)
HAC TAO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 70)

5 SWC | 250 Points

Open with Army 5




Let me know what you think about my issue.
   
Made in us
PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant






Run them as a single group and drop down to 10 orders. You gain very little from splitting them.

You're better off losing a Kuang Shi and running 245 points in a single unit. The Hsien should be able to sniff out the enemy Croc Men (as he can detect them at his base willpower, and can shoot at them with no penalty due to having Multispectral 2) as well as the Rui Shi's multispectral sensors.

Also, the Celestial Guard's smoke launcher can mask your troops in smoke that you can see through (due to MSV2) which the enemy cannot, making an even more lopsided engagement even against TO troops.

 
   
Made in us
Storm Lance





Thanks a bunch, Killionaire. TDhe first thing I'll do is drop it down to 10 orders. Do you yourself ever end up running two combat groups?

   
Made in de
Unhatched Seed-Embryo




München

TO is fairly easy to deal with if you bring the right tools.
First up, sensors are great. If you get a drone with sensors and sniffers, spend some orders on moving it around and placing sniffers close to where you think his TOs might be hidden, then sensor. With some luck if you predicted his hidden deployment, they will now be revealed and fairly easy target for direct template weapons (chain rifle kuang shi) or multispectral visors.
If you don't bring sensors, then just have the MSVs try to discover, or intuitive fire with templates.
   
 
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