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Say that you really want Kasrkins, but they have been discontinued so it it moral to recast them yourself or buy them from Chinese vendors?

It would be immoral if you would do it when they were still available, your not stealing money from them, it is still IP infringement though.

In before lock.

As to the content of the question: it's up to you. If you feel bad about it, don't. If you want the models and don't want to spend over $50 per model on ebay, go for it. It's up to you.

I usually follow 2 rules when it comes to buying recast:

1) Are the models OOP?
-------a) OOP because the company went out of business?
-------b) OOP because there are now new versions?
-------c) OOP because they were a limited edition/release?

2) What is the attitude of the company?

Now personally, the only things I have really consistently purchased as recasts are Rackham Confrontation models, and GW models that I refuse to buy in finecrap.

With the Rackham line, yes they are OOP, and yes CMON now owns the rights to the line. If they actually sold the line, I'd buy from them. Otherwise, buying the genuine models means combing through ebay, with a slim selection, with prices that are far too expensive for me. If I could find a place that did castings of the Ilyad miniature line, I would feel the same. For the most part, I want these things for tabletop use.

That being said, there are things that are designed to be limited edition that go OOP. Studio McVey's limited editions come to mind. These are a bit more on the "you really shouldn't buy that" side, at least in my mind.

The owner of the copyright is the one who gets to decide whether or not their property will be sold.

The fact that someone chooses not to sell you something doesn't make it acceptable for someone who doesn't own it to sell it.



As a general reminder, Dakka does not and can not condone piracy. Moving on.