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Before any of you start reading this theory, please take a look at some quotations from wikia:

"However, in recent years evidence has emerged that the Pariah Gene was engineered into Mankind's ancestors million of years ago by the C'tan and their Necron servants so that humanity might be used as a weapon against the psychic species like the Eldar and the Orks that the Old Ones had created to defeat the C'tan." http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Blank_(Psychic)

"One by one, Khansu's coreworlds fell, the crownworld of Hamun last of all, and those few rebels that survived were dragged to the chambers of transformation. "http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Rakszan

We already know that Earth or Terra is the cradle of mankind, but what do we know about the one before us? When I took notice of the existence of the Blanks, I started wonder about humanity's origins in Warhammer universe. After searching and putting the pieces together, I believed that Terra used to be a Necron-dominated world, possibly the crownworld of Khansu Dynasty.

So far, only human produce Blanks naturally, and C'Tans were said to have a hand on the Pariah Gene. Therefore, why would the C'Tan chose the ancestors of human as the tempering subjects? They could have fun with everything Khansu swore to protect while they could research things against the psychics. After all, when all of the Khansu Dynasty army went out to fight the Old Ones, nobody would expect the C'Tans doing strange things on the home planet of "sinful subjects".

As for the Webway Gate underneath Terra? Maybe that's the reason why Khansu dynasty was willing to go against the rest of the Necron Empire, as they thought the Old Ones would back them in the campaign.

Here's the word game: Change the order of the crownworld name "Hamun" ---> "Human".

I like it.

Nice theory,
Gdubs does like doing things in circles.
Weren't humie's created by the old one's, then left to evolve alone, no reason not to think anyone has tried to rearrange a gene or 2 here and there. Or human women were just so damn sexy, the C'Tan couldn't keep it in their pant's.
I thought the same about the blunt Tau being created by the Eldar.
In the 2nd or 3rd assassin codex. The Eldar did say we held the means of our destruction close to our chests, talking about pariahs.
If Terra was a Necron dominated world, the myths and tales would be filled with terminators. It could explain why the void dragon was hiding out on Terra though.
There wasn't actually a webway gate on Terra. The Emp had to tunnel through the warp to get to it.

In another 40000 years, Eldar are gone. Psyker humie's will be living on space stations, None Psykers will hide somewhere else. Khaos will have burnt itself out. With out a guiding light, Tyranid's will have gotten lost. The Tau, still bitching about their short life spans. Will run into a long lost tech priest, who will finish the job of digitizing them. Turning them into Necron's. Da Orks continue being da Orks. So the circle continue's.

Humans weren't designed by the Old Ones, they were one of the natural races as far as we know.


The Emperor did not build the Webway Gate. He was repairing it. Its secrets were beyond him - that's why he was so angry when Magnus blew out so many of the components - Empy didn't know how to replace them.

The Praetorians are believed to be the ones who seeded Earth with the Pariah Gene, and got Humans to remember the ancient Necrons, which is why the Egyptian motif exists. It is posited that ancient Egypt had been visited by Praetorians, and adopted Necron symbols and beliefs, though imperfectly.

Human-kind isn't old enough, by orders of magnitude, to have been created by the Old Ones. Too many millions of years between the end of the War in Heaven and the rise of humanity for that to be plausible.

I thought the Old One lore was that they put the original life forms on Earth or allowed them to develop? Something like that anyway.

pm713 wrote:
I thought the Old One lore was that they put the original life forms on Earth or allowed them to develop? Something like that anyway.

Yes, but then the Necrons were introduced that moved the end of the Old Ones back so far as to make their involvement in the development of Mankind irrelevant. Sixty million years ago was the Eocene period, which you can read all about here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene

Basically, the Old Ones died out before there were Humans, of any form, to interact with. During this period, the "modern" ancestors of many creatures (birds, elephants, hooved creatures, etc) had appeared, and primates existed only in their earliest forms. We're talking tree-dwelling apes, not even cavemen or anything even close to Neanderthals or Cro-Magnon or otherwise recognizable as a human ancestor. Any influence the Old Ones may have had was basically canceled out by sheer, dumb luck.

 Psienesis wrote:

pm713 wrote:
I thought the Old One lore was that they put the original life forms on Earth or allowed them to develop? Something like that anyway.

Yes, but then the Necrons were introduced that moved the end of the Old Ones back so far as to make their involvement in the development of Mankind irrelevant. Sixty million years ago was the Eocene period, which you can read all about here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene

Basically, the Old Ones died out before there were Humans, of any form, to interact with. During this period, the "modern" ancestors of many creatures (birds, elephants, hooved creatures, etc) had appeared, and primates existed only in their earliest forms. We're talking tree-dwelling apes, not even cavemen or anything even close to Neanderthals or Cro-Magnon or otherwise recognizable as a human ancestor. Any influence the Old Ones may have had was basically canceled out by sheer, dumb luck.

Eocene Peroid was the perfect time for the settlement of Necrontyr, and there were lots of mammals to experiment. Heck, there might be the chance one of those subjects happened to be the ancestor of human-kind.

Tuchuchla built the webway, the thing the dark angels currently have on the Rock.

BNG1991 wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

pm713 wrote:
I thought the Old One lore was that they put the original life forms on Earth or allowed them to develop? Something like that anyway.

Yes, but then the Necrons were introduced that moved the end of the Old Ones back so far as to make their involvement in the development of Mankind irrelevant. Sixty million years ago was the Eocene period, which you can read all about here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene

Basically, the Old Ones died out before there were Humans, of any form, to interact with. During this period, the "modern" ancestors of many creatures (birds, elephants, hooved creatures, etc) had appeared, and primates existed only in their earliest forms. We're talking tree-dwelling apes, not even cavemen or anything even close to Neanderthals or Cro-Magnon or otherwise recognizable as a human ancestor. Any influence the Old Ones may have had was basically canceled out by sheer, dumb luck.

Eocene Peroid was the perfect time for the settlement of Necrontyr, and there were lots of mammals to experiment. Heck, there might be the chance one of those subjects happened to be the ancestor of human-kind.

But the Necrontyr are not the ones thought to have influenced the creation of Mankind, it is the Old Ones (who the Necrons killed off 60 million years ago and even further back) that were once said to have done that. The timeline for this possibility no longer exists, however.

 Formosa wrote:
Tuchuchla built the webway, the thing the dark angels currently have on the Rock.

You're just messing around, right?!

The Old Ones created the Webway, everyone knows that!

The necrontyr are definitely suspects in inclusion of the pariah gene, but as noted, unless they were doing experiments on voles and shrews it didn't happen during or even just after the War in Heaven.

The reference to the "chambers of transformation" is talking about biotransference into mechanical necrons.

The Praetorians who stayed awake may well have continued poking the genome of species who arose on necrontyr worlds.

But yes, there are several things which make it highly likely Terra is a necron tomb world:

1) The pariah gene is found amongst native species
2) A 'technology-based' access point into the Webway (i.e. a Dolmen Gate) was found there
3) A C'Tan shard was found there (the Emperor found and beat down the Dragon on Terra, not Mars - that's where he imprisoned it).

The original owners of Terra were the Dinosaurs. Which was over 65 million years ago. The War in Heaven was over 60 million years ago as well. Co-incidence! I think not! (5 million years is plenty of time for a species to evolve)

The truth is out there people.

Didn't the whole C'tan started the pariah gene thing get retconned when they retconned the C'tan back to sharded avatars in necron jewellery boxes?


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The old ones made the webway and you wouldn't think they would put one on a necron world really..

Nope, that didn't get retconned at all - it was never mentioned at all, in fact.

Mellow wrote:
The original owners of Terra were the Dinosaurs. Which was over 65 million years ago. The War in Heaven was over 60 million years ago as well. Co-incidence! I think not! (5 million years is plenty of time for a species to evolve)

The truth is out there people.

Actually the Old Ones/Old Slann were basically frog people. Perhaps going further with the theory stuff the Old Ones evolved from earth's dinosaurs or had something to do with them being here. It'd explain the gate somewhat as well as I figure they were on the worlds the Old Ones inhabited. At least they had interest with their experiments on Earth.

TheWanderer wrote:
Didn't the whole C'tan started the pariah gene thing get retconned when they retconned the C'tan back to sharded avatars in necron jewellery boxes?


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The old ones made the webway and you wouldn't think they would put one on a necron world really..

Not really for the last one. I am sure the Old Ones would like to have the webway gate installed on the planet of the friendlier Necrontyr Dynasty...

Come to think of it, it might be the reason why some of the Necrontyr dynasties rebeled against the C'Tan...