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Hey mates. Looking to do a White Scars army as they finally got some love from GW and I managed to get my hands on about 30x Legion Outrider Bike from FW to get things going. Been looking online and various battle reports to get a general idea how what makes them competitive, how to equip them per unit, which units are great at supporting them, and overall what is needed to make them a fun army to play. Brand new to when it comes to running a Bike Army with Space Marines, so I could as much help as I can get when it comes to fielding one. With that being said, here are a few questions off the top of my head.

* What is generally a good size to field a Bike Squad from 1850 + points? Currently looking at trying to field at least 5x per squad.minimum at the moment.

* Best way to equip them in this current edition? From what I have seen, vast majority of players run with Grav Guns for obvious reasons, however I know Melta Guns are also a good option to go with as well. When it comes to general Bike Squads, are Grav Guns the only way to go, or would mixing them up be more worth it overall (such as I have 4x Regular Bike Squads, do I give them all Grav Guns or do I do a mix of 2x with Grav Guns and 2x with Melta Guns so to speak). Also, does anyone ever put an Attack Bike in a Regular Space Marine Bike Squad at all? I have considered it as it does provide some extra shooting and extra CC attacks and wounds, but haven't seen many people take them so I just wanted to see peoples thoughts on that particular situation when it comes to fielding Regular Bike Squads.

* Bike Command Squad. Do I also go the Route of Shooting Platform with these guys, or would they be better suited for a CC Hammer unit? Been toying with the idea of making them a very nasty CC unit, combined with Khan and a Chapter Master. However I know while it is expensive, I can give them both strong CC as well as Special Weapons, but that route gets very expensive quickly. Any advice on how to run this unit?

* As I plan to utilize both the Regular Space Marine Codex and the Kauyon White Scars from that Campaign Book, I was looking at the Hunter Formation in particular, however I am reguired to rake a unit of Attack Bikes and Scout Bikes. Not to worried about the Scout Bikes, as I already have an idea what I am going to do with them, my main question is on the Attack Bike Unit. When running Attack Bikes separately, I was originally planning just to use a small unit with Hvy. Bolters to provide distraction and such from other units in my Army, however if there is another way to run them please share it.

* Never been a huge fan of Landspeeders, however I do like the idea of the Typhoon, as the Long-Range Fire Power makes them solid Anti-Tank units. However, has anyone had success with the Tornado Variants, such as the Hvy. Flamer + Multi-Melta Combo or the Hvy. Bolter + Assault Cannon combo? Other then that, I like the idea of the Tempest Land Speeder, as who doesn't like a Landspeed that is better armored and comes with an Assault Cannon on top of Missile Launchers. But granted it is FW and expensive both money and point wise, has anyone tried them out?

* With using other Formations and units to support them, I already plan to utilize the Skyhammer Annihilation Force, as well as get a Fire Raptor for my Anti-Air , however if there any other formations or units that people have has success with when it comes to fielding a Bike Army with them, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again for the help mates.

I played a game against an exalted court of knights last night and i was running a salamander bike/landspeeder list, we tied because i had too many kill points up for grabs (came in with a list not knowing what Id face) and i can tell you that attack bikes are fine, just like everything wlse, when youre using metlas :p i won a local 'Ard boyz back in like 5th ediion using a very similar list where i was fieled a bunch of bikes and speeders, one unit focused on flamers, one unit running meltas and a mixed unit. Havent explored much with gravs since i just started playing again with the exception of one nearly lucky grav pistol shot that almost knocked a hullpoint off his princeps after jinking so that was just hilarious