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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 05:41:58
Subject: Two CC weapons and bike
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Sorry I'm pretty sure this question came up earlier but its answer is not up anymore. Does a modell with two CC weapons gain a +1 attack bonus ? I know the answer in the 3ed was no but I do not have a rule book arround to look it up myself.
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"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 05:55:27
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Master of the Hunt
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Yes, depending.
1. A bike is neither a two-handed nor a one-handed weapon. 2. Any other specific rules restricting the use of two CCWs and a bike are absent from the current general rules, however they may still exist for your specific Codex.
So, check your Codex. If it is not specifically outlawed, then it is legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 08:49:29
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Rampaging Carnifex
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 Hahaha very funny. Just peed myself by the pure imagination.... Ah okay well I ment using two CC weapons sitting on a bike... clear now ?
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I know when it is closing time. - Rascal Mod
"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 09:18:58
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Master of the Hunt
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Yes, it was clear the first time.
The point is that: 1. In the BGB, the only thing that you need to do to get +1 attack is to be equipped with two single-handed weapons. 2. In your Codex, the restriction on what weapons you can take from the armoury is the limit on 2 total weapons, one of which can be two-handed. 3. A bike is not a weapon.
So, 3 does not violate 1 or 2, hence you can take 2 single-handed weapons and a bike.
HOWEVER, I believe that some of the older codices (Chaos?) specifically say that the bike requires one hand to drive it, while the newer ones do not (Marines).
So, unless your Codex contains this extra limiting rule, you can do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 09:26:49
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Oh, I thought it was a joke... Using the bike as weapon... no not funny... okay...
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I know when it is closing time. - Rascal Mod
"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 09:40:55
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Master of the Hunt
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Well, it was kind of a joke, but true nonetheless.... Please, feel free to resume laughter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 12:55:04
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Minneapolis, MN
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For example, Chaos Space Marine bikers may not use two weapons, but Space Marine bikers may.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 13:09:21
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Rampaging Carnifex
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So bonus attack for SM, yes
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I know when it is closing time. - Rascal Mod
"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 15:08:43
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
Da Southern New Hampshire!
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Of course, Loyalist Marines are always updated. So eventually they were updated so much they learned to drive with no hands. This is why the Bad Marines need one hand to drive while the Loyalist Marines dont.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/11 15:41:22
Subject: RE: Two CC weapons and bike
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Sslimey Sslyth
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While it is true that CSMs on a bike cannot be armed with 2 ccw's to get the extra attack, this is mitigated by the fact that the bike itself confers +1 attack to the model mounted on it. In effect, the bike acts as an extra close combat weapon by itself.
If only this applied to DE Jetbikes, especially considering the fact that the stock DE Jetbike model is considerably more "spiky" than it's equivalent CSM counterpart.
Sal.
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