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I'm just disappointed in this book as a whole.

What exactly did I pay 17$ for?

The 8 paragraphs of fluff?
The pictures?
The removal of the TK's?
No new units?
Minor errata to old units that could have been faqs?
The removal of old characters?
No new formations, when the demons got a ton of them?

I thought 17$ was too good to be true, and it was. This book wasn't anything more than GW printing money.

A few pages of fluff summarizing what's going on with the undead in AoS, one new formation (just an old formation with different abilities), and physical copies of some slightly updated warscrolls (which are all free to download online or via the app).

You got literally exactly what they advertised it as. Last week's white dwarf said exactly what was going to be in it (including a count of warscrolls and the sad info that there would be only a single formation scroll). The preorder page even showed the table of contents and everything.

Why did you think it was only $17? What else did you expect to be in there?

I mean, there really, REALLY should have been more formations, probably around 6 (one each for skeletons ghouls, ghosts, zombies, vampires, and deathlords), as formations don't require GW to make new models, encourage players to buy more of the ones they already have, and would give death faction gamers at least something mechanical to toy with to dull the pain of so many, many units being left out while nothing new is going to be added, but...

yeah. Other then that, this is no bait and switch, it's exactly what GW advertised it to be.

1. Where is the new formation, or even the update of the old one?

2. I don't read White Dwarf.

The 'army of the dead', I think it's called? I don't know what page it's on (don't have my copy yet), but it's the same units as the old deathrattle horde, but with different benefits (from what I was told, you can make some of the units move in the command phase instead of all units having a minimum run speed, and can bring back an extra slain model from each unit with their banners instead of re-rolling ones on saves).

Honestly, from the description I got, I preferred the old deathrattle horde, which hasn't just not been carried forward, it's been removed from the app entirely, which I'm somewhat annoyed and upset about, though it's still in the vamp compendium which, along with the TK compendium, can still be downloaded from the AoS rules page on GW's site.

I have the book and I can't find it. I'll look again.

Why it was worth your money? Because it's a book.

Try to print the whole content by yourself with the quality of GW. Not sure you will spend much less than that.

Well it isn't all that much to be honest, but if you want a physical hard copy of the Warscrolls I'd say its worth it.

It's not MUST BUY but compared to a lot of other stuff GW has released I'd say the price is right.

Print value then, there's that at least.

I had hoped for more value than the warscrolls put to paper. The Chaos Grand Alliance had a bit more thematic power to it.

I don't have my copy yet, am going form second hand accounts, but will post the page number of the formation later if you still haven't found it yet.

I certainly understand being disappointed compared to the chaos book (which, admittedly, was twice the asking price). That book had a bunch of recent new stuff to include, and didn't drop any entire factions of old things (not counting chaos dwarves, which were and remain a FW thing), not even the beastmen, which had been rumored as possibly on the chopping block, what with the more popular skaven kind of stealing their place.

And that book had a bunch of formations.

So yeah, grand alliance of chaos was a great book. Grand alliance death is certainly a let down, but I don't see it as a rip off, not when GW went out of their way to say what is and isn't in it.

That sums it up succinctly.

"So yeah, grand alliance of chaos was a great book. Grand alliance death is certainly a let down, but I don't see it as a rip off, not when GW went out of their way to say what is and isn't in it."

Why is the Death book worth the money? I can't speak for you, but for me it's worth it. I like having a book. I don't like reading on my iPad all the time so having a REAL book is nice.

Also if I wanted to print everything out since I want something on paper, I will not be able to print them all out this cheap.

Also I find the price fair. $20 Canadian is a fair price. I will not pay $90 for an AoS book since if I don't find the WORTH in it, I will be upset, but for $20, if I don't find the WORTH I will not be so upset. GW finally got a good pricing point to take a chance on something. I am glad I got it. It is WORTH it for me.

I am sure for $17US you will find ways to waste that money on something else that would be worthless to others. What is $17, 3 or 4 Starbucks coffee? One meal. One movie ticket?

I recommend next time do research before buying so you will not become upset.

I never said it was a waste or worthless. I was asking where the value is, or what exactly it is I'm paying for.

The answer seems to be, "Having the stuff in print."

Which is fine, I guess, but I was hoping for at least some of the same value as the CGA. A Formation for the 3 different hosts mentioned would have been nice, or something other than minor reprints.

I have no intentions of buying the Death Grand Alliance Tome, but price wise it's not that bad for a colored book. At my local printing store, combining all 15 Warscroll Compendiums into one black and white book with binding cost me ~ $40 (each page 5.5" x8.5")

Having the same scrolls you can download online, only in nice color print, and having fluff about what some of the Death guys are up to in AoS. Mostly the former, though.

The formation is 'Legion of Death' on page 54. Same units as Deathrattle Horde (with the added option that you can take the downgraded-but-still-good generic krell in place of the regular wight king, since they're both 'wight kings'). Benefits are probably slightly better, but not, imo, better enough to justify the existence of this formation when the old formation could have been reprinted (or even just left in the app as is) and actual new formations included instead.

Right now the entire death faction only has seven formations, two largely redundant (legion of death and deathrattle horde), two for discontinued product lines (the TK ones), one in a us$70+ campaign book with very little other undead content (though that one can be downloaded in the app for $2), and one from the malignant starter box which can't be accessed in the app at all.

The sort of scattered content one would have hoped the GAD book might have helped collect in one place. Instead the Death rules are more scattered than ever.

The sort of scattered content one would have hoped the GAD book might have helped collect in one place. Instead the Death rules are more scattered than ever.

Exalted.

The 70$ one is the Neferate one, right?


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Also, 7? I only see 3 in the app.

 Thunderfrog wrote:

I never said it was a waste or worthless. I

You did a good job of why you said it wasn't worth it to you. You didn't say what was worth it, so hence it is worthless to you.

So yes you did say it was worthless , but you are correct you didn't say it was a waste though.

I picked up my copy and it is friggen awesome in my opinion! Well worth a tenner.

Did you notice in two of the pieces of artwork, one shows Empire humans and another shows regular Dwarfs??

Might be a mistake - or an oversight, but usually the artwork has been a telltale of what is to come. :-)

I love the bit about the Deathrattle legions mowing their lawns and doing DIY when they are not at war. Almost makes the undead skeleton army seem more alive than the Stormcast ;-)

Although the mention of the "Desert of Bones" or something made me shake my head - surely a perfect place for Tomb Kings to reside?!

Anyway, well worth the money, and a nice introduction to AoS fluff - I found many of the passages got my idea cog churning away at possible armies and I especially liked most of the Deathrattle fluff.