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What do you think to this potential competitive list? Wanted to fit in a void shield generator but didn't have a CAD... I suppose I could if I swapped out the artillery company, but ignores cover manticores are a bit good...

Emperor’s Wrath Artillery Company 620pts

CCS with MOO + autocannon in chimera 150pts
Engineseer 40pts
2x wyverns 130pts
2x wyverns 130pts
Manticore 170pts

Inquisition detachment 400pts

Inquisitor with 3 skulls 34pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts

Inquisition detachment 400pts

Inquisitor with 3 skulls 34pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts


Raptor wing 325pts

Stormtalon with skyhammer 125pts
Stormtalon with skyhammer 125pts
LS with typhoon 75pts

I feel like the artillery company is not very efficient. Wyvrens are good on their own. So you are basically paying a ton of points to put ignore cover on your manticore. Also you have no vox to benefit from the other special rule of the formation.

I think to run the artillery formation and make it worth while you have to use basilisks. And taking Volokovs Cane really makes that ignore cover much more reliable.

I'm actually saving points by using the artillery formation - for a CAD I'd need to buy 2 units of vets that I don't really want. Wyverns are good on their own and I'm using it as a cheap way to get wyverns and the manticore. The engineseer isn't even much of a tax as he can allow the manticore to fire 2 rockets per turn, plus potentially restore damaged vehicles.

I've come up with another potential list along the same lines. The theory with the ironstriders is to try and block charges intercept anything closing on my artillery. I think it does MSU vehicles pretty well, with 21 individual vehicle units

Emperor’s Wrath Artillery Company 620pts

CCS with MOO + autocannon in chimera 155pts
Engineseer 40pts
2x wyverns 130pts
2x wyverns 130pts
Manticore 170pts

Inquisition detachment 353pts

Inquisitor with 3 skulls 34pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker, 3 plasma henchmen, 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 122pts
Psyker + 2 bolter henchmen in chimera 75pts

Skitarii Ironstrider cavaliers - 145pts
Dragoon 45pts
Dragoon 45pts
Balistarii 55pts

Skitarii Ironstrider cavaliers - 145pts
Dragoon 45pts
Dragoon 45pts
Balistarii 55pts

Skitarii Ironstrider cavaliers - 145pts
Dragoon 45pts
Dragoon 45pts
Balistarii 55pts

Raptor wing 325pts

Stormtalon with skyhammer 125pts
Stormtalon with skyhammer 125pts
LS with typhoon 75pts

Theres some debate about whether the enginseer can in fact allow the manticore to fire twice. The manticore's missiles may not technically be seperate weapons, but one with 4 uses. In which case, POTMS does not allow you to fire the same weapon twice.

I also agree that if your taking 4 Wyverns, theres really no reason not to take a Basilisk since the CCS gets two orders and the Wyverns themselves dont really benefit from them. Also take a vox on the CCS, twin linked might come in handy.

POTMS allows you to fire one additional weapon at full BS, not fire one additional weapon that you are not normally allowed to fire at all. It doesnt work RAW. At least that is my understanding.

Ah thanks for the correction on the manticore - I just saw some guy play it that way once and I thought it was interesting.

Good call on the vox caster. That's a definite inclusion.

I'm not really a fan of basilisk, even when ordered. Two wyverns will be better than an ignores cover basilisk shot on almost all infantry targets, and won't lose ignores cover due to a failed order. Plus 2 wyverns are almost twice as hard to kill as a basilisk. I guess a basilisk could be superior if I knew I was mainly fighting tanks to be fair.