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So my local store just finished Doomsday and we are now looking forward to The Wrath of Kahn OP. Has anyone looked at this scenario yet?

Being that you can only fire at range 1 and you have no shields, no cloak and can only use battle stations and evade on your action bar I'm thinking kazon with their 180 arc might be good. Also looking at Dominion battleships and Bioships. You get a free sensor echo so it should make the battleships more maneuverable.

Thoughts?

Romulans with Mendak might be a solid call, Since remans have a hull of 7, agility 2. Federation ships, like the NX-01 Enterprise and the Bajoran Interceptors may be nice as well.

You could run 4 Bajoran Interceptors with Phaser Strike for 84 points, leaving 6 points for upgrades. Phaser strike allows for a skill ten 5 dice attack at range 1, which you can use for captains or upgrades.

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Interceptor 5 (16)
Worf (2)
Bajoran Militia (3)
Phaser Strike (5)
Warp Drive Refit (2)
Ship SP: 30

Bajoran Interceptor (16)
Kor (4)
Bajoran Militia (3)
Phaser Strike (5)
Warp Drive Refit (2)
Ship SP: 32

Interceptor 8 (16)
Shakarr Edon (4)
Bajoran Militia (3)
Phaser Strike (5)
Warp Drive Refit (2)
Ship SP: 30

Total Build SP: 88

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Well this Op is some way off for me (we're a bit behind this side of the pond) but the xindi weapon ship seems like the perfect ship for this.
It doesn't have shields so your not paying points for something you won't be using, and it has a 360` weapon upgrade. Also it's defensive ability is really nice.

Shame I only have one of them.

OOOh...

Good point. The problem is that the generics DON'T have that ability. Aside from that... I could see this being a very fun build.

I hate to say it, but this scenario calls for flying hulks... the Borg. It's perfect for the Sphere, Diamond, and Tac Cube. High hull value, 360 arc, and everyone is limited to range 1. Think about it Sensor Echoing TAC CUBES

Cloaked Mines will also be very good because you cannot take a scan action in the scenario. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of venues ban them for this OP.

Yeah.. It really does...


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Throw Mendak in there with the Tactical Drones, and now you can re-roll your attack dice, with a Battlestations.

Question: Does full Assault benefit from the +1 at range 1?

 Corpsman913 wrote:
Yeah.. It really does...


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Throw Mendak in there with the Tactical Drones, and now you can re-roll your attack dice, with a Battlestations.

Question: Does full Assault benefit from the +1 at range 1?

Na, full assault is a secondary,it doesn't get range bonuses.

Damn.

Your idea of the Interceptors is pretty cool. 3 hull is flimsy, but 5 defense with sensor echo could be fun.

I was thinking outside the box. That, and Phaser strike allows you to attack at skill ten. So as an action, you can shoot first.


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And thank you.

I'm not sure I would want to fly it but here is a shot.

Officer Exchange Bajoran/Romulan

16 Interceptor 5
03 Donatra
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
03 Toreth
00 Admiral Hiren
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
00 Bochra (his ability doesn't do anything here, but he's free)
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
00 Centurion
05 Phaser Strike

I don't know about most folks, but I have 3 of the blind Interceptor and I am sure I can borrow another of the 4 die Phaser Strike. With Donatra you can get them up to 5 dice, Toreth gets a crit in there and Centurion gives reroll. That would be 19 dice with Donatra plus Phaser Strike gets a range bonus, that will be 23 at skill 10 pluse whatever your blind can add.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
I'm not sure I would want to fly it but here is a shot.

Officer Exchange Bajoran/Romulan

16 Interceptor 5
03 Donatra
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
03 Toreth
00 Admiral Hiren
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
00 Bochra (his ability doesn't do anything here, but he's free)
05 Phaser Strike

16 Bajoran Interceptor
00 Centurion
05 Phaser Strike

I don't know about most folks, but I have 3 of the blind Interceptor and I am sure I can borrow another of the 4 die Phaser Strike. With Donatra you can get them up to 5 dice, Toreth gets a crit in there and Centurion gives reroll. That would be 19 dice with Donatra plus Phaser Strike gets a range bonus, that will be 23 at skill 10 pluse whatever your blind can add.

That's a nice build. I don't have interceptors so I did a Federation build with a couple of NX's and the Reliant, after all, it is the mutara nebula. ;-)

Enterprise NX-01 [16]
- Jean-Luc Picard 9 (Captain) [6]
- - Tactical Alert [2]
- Antimatter Mines [5]
- Ilia [4]
- Hikaru Sulu [3]
- Enhanced Hull Plating [0]
Ship Total: 36 SP

Federation Starship (Federation NX Class) [16]
- William T. Riker 6 (Captain) [4]
- Tom Paris [4]
Ship Total: 24 SP

U.S.S. Reliant [20]
- Hayes 5 (Captain) [3]
- Upgraded Phasers [3]
- Seven of Nine [4]
Ship Total: 30 SP

Fleet Total: 90 SP

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The reliant would actually shine in this scenario I think. it essentially has a firepower of 4 for the duration of its flight time in the nebula.

 Corpsman913 wrote:
The reliant would actually shine in this scenario I think. it essentially has a firepower of 4 for the duration of its flight time in the nebula.

I wish this scenario was limited to ships with a hull value of 4 or less. With the right upgrades Reliant would be a match for even Voyger. However with no shields and no restrictions on the bigger ships, I would be concerned that the poor ship would be blown apart before it can do anyting.

High skill captain can patch that to a degree: I have actually buffed the reliant up to a firepower of 8 at range 1 before. Admittedly, it was difficult.


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U.S.S. Reliant (20)
Jean-Luc Picard (6)
Hikaru Sulu (3)
B'Elanna Torres (4)
Tactical Station (4)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 46

U.S.S. Defiant (24)
Donatra (3)
Adm. Hayes (3)
William T. Riker (3)
Jack Crusher (2)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 44

Total Build SP: 90

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This lets the Reliant throw as many as 9 attack dice, with a battle stations for conversion, and as much as 6 defense dice plus the Sulu conversion and the Enhanced Hull plating.

You could also sack Sulu and drop Chekov if you need to clear the Aux tokens faster.

 Corpsman913 wrote:
High skill captain can patch that to a degree: I have actually buffed the reliant up to a firepower of 8 at range 1 before. Admittedly, it was difficult.


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Resource: Officer Exchange Program

U.S.S. Reliant (20)
Jean-Luc Picard (6)
Hikaru Sulu (3)
B'Elanna Torres (4)
Tactical Station (4)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 46

U.S.S. Defiant (24)
Donatra (3)
Adm. Hayes (3)
William T. Riker (3)
Jack Crusher (2)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 44

Total Build SP: 90

Generated by STAW Builder
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This lets the Reliant throw as many as 9 attack dice, with a battle stations for conversion, and as much as 6 defense dice plus the Sulu conversion and the Enhanced Hull plating.

You could also sack Sulu and drop Chekov if you need to clear the Aux tokens faster.

My friend just came up with a nasty ISS build using the Avenger, Defiant and the Mirror Klingon ship...gonna try your build against it possibly tonight and see how it does.

 GenZod wrote:

 Corpsman913 wrote:


U.S.S. Reliant (20)
Jean-Luc Picard (6)
Hikaru Sulu (3)
B'Elanna Torres (4)
Tactical Station (4)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 46

U.S.S. Defiant (24)
Donatra (3)
Adm. Hayes (3)
William T. Riker (3)
Jack Crusher (2)
Type 8 Phaser Array (2)
Upgraded Phasers (3)
Enhanced Hull Plating (4)
Ship SP: 44

Total Build SP: 90

My friend just came up with a nasty ISS build using the Avenger, Defiant and the Mirror Klingon ship...gonna try your build against it possibly tonight and see how it does.

Well I didn't do so good. I'm not a very good tight quarter flyer and the guy I practice with is great at sensor echoing...

Question...if you get the crit card that stops you from using your action bar...should they still be able to sensor echo inside the nebula?

The reliant was able to fend off two large hard hitting attacks and only take a scratch but my luck ran out the third time.

In response to the "Damaged Sensor Array" crit, yes they can still Sensor Echo even with that crit because it is a scenario condition and is NOT added to the action bar. However it still requires the ship to perform a speed of 3 or less. "Damaged Sensor Array" only takes away your ability to perform actions listed on the action bar, and in this case sensor echo is granted by the scenario.

If the rules sheet said it is added to your action bar then you would lose the ability from a "damaged sensor array" but it only says you may perform a sensor echo after performing a maneuver of 3 or less.



Even with the extra defense dice from the Nebula, I just don't like the idea of a 3 hull ship with no shields in this scenario. For me I am thinking it is better to take a tank, 5 plus hull

Just was playing around, and thought this one could be fun, but not necessarily a winning build. The two tholians are essentially kamakazi nukes flying directly into the enemy, and hopefully taking them and maybe a few more with them.

Tholian Vessel (14)
Alpha Hirogen (4)
I Stab at Thee (3)
Ramming Attack (3)
Ship SP: 24

Tholian Vessel (14)
Alpha Hirogen (4)
I Stab at Thee (3)
Ramming Attack (3)
Ship SP: 24

Alpha Hunter (26)
Karr (5)
Stalking Mode (5)
Kenneth Dalby (2)
Sensor Network (4)
Ship SP: 42

Total Build SP: 90

That's an interesting plan. You could officer Exchange with Romulans and take Admiral Hirwn for 0 points. That would get Kar up to skill 9.

Ooooh... that would be hilarious. The problem with this build as a winning build is I would have to wipe out my opponent completely, or else I end up in a world of hurt.