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Pennsylvania

I have an opponent the uses 2 units of 8 with a Starsoul Mace in each and they are just brutal every game. I am having trouble dealing with them with the tools available. Anyone have good tips on how to handle these guys?

40k

Space Wolves - 1850

Age of Sigmar

Chaos - Khorne Bloodbound, Daemons
Order - Stormcast Eternals
Destruction - Beastclaw Raiders
 
   
Made in ca
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That's a lot of Retributors, but at least they're fairly slow. Wrath mongers are an idea as kind of a suicide unit, as if the Rets kill any of them, they will then go on to attack themselves.
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User



Pennsylvania

Yeah, so far, I am looking at the following...

- Skullreapers in a block of 10 or two blocks of 5
- Wrathmongers I currently have 5 and would maybe need more to withstand the onslaught
- Bloodthirster combined with a multicharge to blunt the return strike

Just looking at the Retributors point for point though (we use SDK) they are a VERY efficient unit. Will be interesting to see if the list changes after the new Dracoths come out.

40k

Space Wolves - 1850

Age of Sigmar

Chaos - Khorne Bloodbound, Daemons
Order - Stormcast Eternals
Destruction - Beastclaw Raiders
 
   
Made in us
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SDK price for Retributors
48 for regular Retributors
51 for starsoul mace Retributor
57 for Retributor prime

Retributors get 2 attacks with 3+,3+, -1 for 2 damage. A 6 on to hit roll inflicts two mortal wounds.
They have 3 wounds with 4+ armor save. Move 4" with bravery 7.
Starsoul mace gets 1 attack for d3 mortal wounds.

Two units of 8 with 1 starsoul mace each and a prime each would cost 792 in SDK (how many points are you using in your battles? I find Khorne Bloodbound is best in lower point battles).
If all fighting, the damage output would average (30 attacks + 2 starsoul maces): 14 mortal wounds and roughly 21 wounds at -1 rend. On defense, they have 48 wounds (16x3) with 4+ armor save.

So these are hard hitting units that are also durable.

Bloodbound has minimal missile fire, so we have to rely on melee for defeating them. In a scenario like Breakthrough or a battle that is based on objectives, I would just avoid the retributors.

In melee, my inclination is to use either Khorne Chaos Warriors (24 points) /Chaos Knights (47) (both have Rune shields 5+ save vs. mortal wounds), or to use Blood Reavers against them (7 points each, mortal wounds aren't special against reavers). Either way use the Blood Secrator (88 points) and Chaos Warshrine (196) and Aspiring Deathbringer (62, as general) in support.

Approximate points
Blood Secrator/Warshrine/Aspiring Death Bringer: 346 points
Option 1: 70 Blood Reavers (one unit): 492 points
Option 2: 10 Chaos Knights (one unit): 470 points
Option 3: 20 Chaos Warriors (one unit): 480 points







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Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User



Pennsylvania

We play 1800 points.

I'll take a look and see what I can see to fend off these units.

40k

Space Wolves - 1850

Age of Sigmar

Chaos - Khorne Bloodbound, Daemons
Order - Stormcast Eternals
Destruction - Beastclaw Raiders
 
   
 
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