Space Marine Captains' titles

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**Lord Corellia**

So there have been a number of titles for Marine Captains (Sicarius is "Master of the Watch" for example) but are these specific to the Ultramarines, or would any Codex Chapter use them? In addition, would Second Company Captain always be Master of the Watch or would it differ between Chapters? I remember seeing a layout of all 10 Ultramarines Captains, but I can't find it in either the 6th or 7th edition Codex.

**Iron_Captain**

Here is an overview of the different titles:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Master_%28Space_Marine%29

Codex Chapters normally follow the standard organisation and thus use these titles, but there are also plenty of Chapters that replace them with titles specific to their own situation and culture.

**Lord Corellia**

Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

**JamesY**

Kantor leads 1st company.

**Furyou Miko**

Lord Corellia wrote:
Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

According to the wiki, though, the Crimson Fists specifically have a slightly different line-up of captains;

Spoiler:

Cross-referencing with Lexicanum, the source seems to be the novel, Rynn's World.

What does Drakken have, wargear wise, in 3rd?

**locarno24**

Codex Chapters normally follow the standard organisation and thus use these titles, but there are also plenty of Chapters that replace them with titles specific to their own situation and culture.

Exactly so.
Master of the Watch (currently Sicarius) has responsibility for the security of the chapter Fortress-Monastery.

Master of the Marches (currently Galenius) has responsibility for the 'marches' - the chapter's territorial claims outside the fortress.

Neither post, for example, would be relevant to a fleet-based chapter, who would probably have multiple sub-variations on the Ultramarine's simplistic Master of the Fleet.

**Just Tony**

Lord Corellia wrote:
Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

Captain Drakken as the guy in Terminator Armor that died at Kruegerport. The person on the cover of the 3rd Ed. codex is actually Pedro Kantor.

**The Grumpy Eldar**

Just Tony wrote:
Lord Corellia wrote:
Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

Captain Drakken as the guy in Terminator Armor that died at Kruegerport. The person on the cover of the 3rd Ed. codex is actually Pedro Kantor.

nope. That's Alessio Cortez. The biggest badarse the CF have.

The tittles differ in non codex chapters and in some codex chapters. (Like the Crimson Fists. Didn't the Black Templars differ to?)

**Gashrog**

The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
Just Tony wrote:
Lord Corellia wrote:
Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

Captain Drakken as the guy in Terminator Armor that died at Kruegerport. The person on the cover of the 3rd Ed. codex is actually Pedro Kantor.
nope. That's Alessio Cortez. The biggest badarse the CF have.

The abomination that is the Cortez mini appears to have been based on that picture, but GW has stated that the picture was (as obvious) a redo of the RT rulebook cover - and the boss dude in the original bore the markings of Imperial Commander (Chapter Master).

**casvalremdeikun**

Just Tony wrote:
Lord Corellia wrote:
Ah, great. Thanks.

Of course this means I'll probably convert/ kitbash myself up 10 different Captains (only 1-2 of whom I'll ever use) but meh, whatever...

Anyone have any thoughts on parts for Ashor Drakken AKA the Crimson Fists Captain from the 3rd Edition Codex artwork?

As one final aside, do the Crimson Fists maintain a First Company Captain or does Kantor fill that role?

Captain Drakken as the guy in Terminator Armor that died at Kruegerport. The person on the cover of the 3rd Ed. codex is actually Pedro Kantor.

Drakken wasn't wearing Terminator Armor or described as such. It sounds more like he was in Artificer armor.

**Just Tony**

The Grumpy Eldar wrote:nope. That's Alessio Cortez. The biggest badarse the CF have.

Cortez has hair, a flat top to be specific, with a white streak slightly off center. He also had a dead eye, not bionics. Look at his character entry in the back of the 3rd Ed. codex, picture of him plain as day.

Gashrog wrote:The abomination that is the Cortez mini appears to have been based on that picture, but GW has stated that the picture was (as obvious) a redo of the RT rulebook cover - and the boss dude in the original bore the markings of Imperial Commander (Chapter Master).

Should have mentioned that in my original post.

casvalremdeikun wrote:Drakken wasn't wearing Terminator Armor or described as such. It sounds more like he was in Artificer armor.

White Dwarf actually did a battle report based on the Kruegerport battle, and Drakken was in Terminator armor. And I wouldn't be so quick to fact check the Rynn's World novel, the author made a reference to the Ork Warboss as the one that killed Captain Alvez at Kruegerport. Alvez died on Rynn's World, and not even at the hands of the warboss.

**SNAAAAKE**

Lord Corellia wrote:
So there have been a number of titles for Marine Captains (Sicarius is "Master of the Watch" for example) but are these specific to the Ultramarines, or would any Codex Chapter use them? In addition, would Second Company Captain always be Master of the Watch or would it differ between Chapters? I remember seeing a layout of all 10 Ultramarines Captains, but I can't find it in either the 6th or 7th edition Codex.

In the 6th codex, its on the Ultramarine chapter organisation page.

You have plenty of titles though,

Sicarius, Master of the Watch (Thought to be disciplinary action)
Fabian, Master of the Arsenal (Weapons)
so on so forth.

Most chapters use them, but some Captains have other titles, Sicarius is the High Suzerain of Ultramar or something, Fabian's affectionate name is something to do with Tyranids (His involvement in the Battle of Macragge is undeniably pivotal to the survival of the Ultramarines)

**Lord Corellia**

I found the Crimson FIsts Captains' names and titles in the Angels of Death book. Most of them are canonically dead though, right? Rynn's World only specifically mentions 2 of them (Drakken and Alvez) as having been killed but none of the others aside from Kantor and Cortez are mentioned after the fortress monastery is destroyed.