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Hi guys , I am due to play a friends tournament list tomorrow. He's already told me he's bringing a Riptide Wing, so I thought as a SM player the only hope I have of trying to win is to MSU spam. Below is my typical MSU list, any c and c is welcome.

+Demi 1 +
Capt - Cataphractii Armour / Sword
5 man Devs - 3 Las / 1 MSL
Bike Squad
5 Man TS Flamer Razorback
5 Man TS Plasma gun Rhino
5 Man TS Grav Gun Razorback

+Demi 2+
Chaplain
5 Man Devs - 2 Grav 2 Plas
5 Man Assault Sq
5 Man TS Pod
5 Man TS Pod
5 Man TS Pod

+10th Coy Scout+
5 Man Scouts land speeder storm
5 Scouts Sniper
5 Scouts

+Librarius Conclave+
1 Libby ML 2
2 X Libby ML 1

My plan would be to use the new Astartes psychic powers to try and hem him in whilst sending out my many units to scope objectives.

What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance

First, welcome to Dakka and the Ultramarines.

You have a lot of bodies, and not a lot of guns. That’s what you are going for with a MSU build, but I’d try to cram in some more firepower.

If you are worried about riptides, getting a much grav in your list as you can is going to be key.

Your devs should be in pods/razors. Everyone should, as that’s one of the major perks of the full company list. If not, you are taking a lot of “tax” units for less rewards.

While I like LSSs, you have enough troops swarming over the table as it is. I might drop it to get some more points for guns. Things like the bike squad are begging for them.

I’ve not played with the new powers yet, but there is a lot of potential there. Same with the old powers, for that mater.

Good luck!

Honetly, ultramarines are just straight up not the CT to run unless you're doing null deploy full pod. You already have 3 turns of usefull CTs getting 2 more is sort of negligable as the effectiveness really tails off as you start losing units.

Go White Scars full rhinos, Khan with a hunter's eye chaplain 2 Grav Cannons in both devs and 1 grav cannon in 3 tac squads, Attack Bikes instead of assault marines or regular bikes, A command squad on bikes with an Apoc is great for running with khan, melta combi-melta in the 3 podding tacs, ditch the conclave, it's not that useful in gladius because you're already twin-linked most of the time and you have no really meaningfully powerful individual units.