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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/04 09:33:35
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant - UPDATE - New contender, Is a knight gallant better than I thought?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Probably something that's been asked before, but I want it to be a more personal choice for what I'm building.
I already have 2 imperial Knights. I have a crusader with the rapid fire battle cannons and I have a warden. So, not wanting to have 2 of the same, I'm trying to decide which to add as a third, an errant or a paladin. I'm leaning towards an aggressive errant as I like the idea of the melta cannon, but the paladin seems to be the better all rounder. I feel like making the errant my warlord gives me more benefit from the +1 BS and WS. I'd also be tempted to give him the helm for rampage.
I'm attempting to run my Knights along side a Ravenwing force. So I have access to black Knights, librarians and a chaplain. I also have a vindicare and a culexus.
So what does dakka think? Go with my gut and build an errant? Or hold back and go paladin?
I face a lot of MEQ AND TEQ so the AP1 could become important. I also face a lot of re rollable jink saves from bikes so perhaps the higher number of hits are important? Help!
Finally, I think I'm better off with baronial court as I face an absolute crap tonne of melta. I'm assuming this is a no brainer and to avoid the household detachment?
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/04 11:21:38
Subject: Re:Paladin Vs Errant, Baronial court Vs Household detachment?
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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You could saw the weapon joints; the horizontal pivot, and magnetise, or do what I've done and superglue Lego bits to clip the weapons onto. That solves part of the dilemma.
Then what you can do is tailor your list to all possible circumstances, ending up with 5 or so incarnations of it.
When you see what your opponent has, be a cheeky git and swap your knight's weapons around to whatever list it is for the circumstance.
(Helps if they don't get to peep at your little book of everything).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/05 08:49:09
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant, Baronial court Vs Household detachment?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Ok.....any more helpful help?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/07 20:19:29
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant, Baronial court Vs Household detachment?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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If you already have a crusader with the battle cannon, and already have 2 gatling guns in your list, why not the Errant? His melta cannon will help clear out those pesky MEQ's and such from the field, and he will be supported by the crusader's range.
Or, maybe just go uber choppy with the Gallant with that rampage mask thingie. He could have around 8 attacks on the charge if you roll right, and that will deffinatly murder some terminators. Plus if you have extra points you could grab a missile launcher on the top of your guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 20:52:14
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant, Baronial court Vs Household detachment?
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Pewling Menial
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Make the warlord the warden he benefits the most from the bs and ws. I play a household detachment with a warden, crusader, and a gallant. I have my actual list posted on the army list forum and it does really well against sm, I've been playing against a lot of IH psychic bike lists and stomps work wonders. Automatically Appended Next Post: I personally would build another warden or a gallant, I think the warden is best all around with 12 rending shots and the gallant is a beast in close combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/23 06:26:15
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant - UPDATE - New contender, Is a knight gallant better than I thought?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Having played a few games with my 2 Knights, I have noticed that they tend to Excell at ranged fire power more than melee. They're not bad at melee, but they can take a while to chew through things.
Up until this point I always thought the gallant was a pointless choice. But with a stormspear rocket pod on his back, he comes in at the same points as the errant. He gains the bonus for 3 melee weapons for the extra base attack. And if I give him 'helm of the nameless warrior' he'll gain rampage too. That's a potential of 5-8 D strength attacks on the charge, and if I make him the warlord then he gains WS5 and can really make them count.
Still debating as to whether I'm betting off making the warden the warlord, I'm likely to spend more time with him out of combat hopefully though so perhaps the gallant would be a better choice. Also gives him a greater chance of his three missiles making a mark.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/23 06:44:31
Subject: Paladin Vs Errant - UPDATE - New contender, Is a knight gallant better than I thought?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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In a household or barons court detachment, the Warden is the best choice for a warlord. BS5 is huge for something firing 12 shots.
In a Exalted Court, and you aren't using FW, I would argue for the Errant or Paladin to be the Warlord, since everyone will be Bs5, and the BS6 for the WL will be best used on a blast template. I tend to lean toward the Errant, because his closer range will lead him to wanting to charge more than the Paladin will. However, the Paladin does have two blast templates a turn, and does still have a sword...
If you plan on making a full IK army, I would suggest a Lancer or Atrapos, simply because sword WKs ruin the day of standard IKs. The Lancer causes concussive and gains an initiative on the charge, while the Atrapos also causes concussive with its Gravity Flux cannon, and is the only Knight with a ranged D weapon (potentially two, if you roll well with the gravity gun).
More to the topic/tldr: Errant, considering you already have a warden and a Crusader with a battle cannon, to give you some more diversity and something to handle both tanks and terminators.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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