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A friend and I have a game coming up next sunday that is a 5k apoc battle vs a guy with a lot of ad mech, both 30 and 40k. So we split up the points down the board to bring a combined force.

This is what I'm going to be bringing. Sorry for formating.

Command Crew:
Prince - Void Sabre Cloud Dancer

Void Dreamer ml 3 Jet pack

Wasp x 3 with scatter lasers

Cotorie "Sky burners"
Vyper x2 : Splinter Cannon, Scatter Laser
Fire Prism
Baron with jetpack
2 reaver squads with 2 blasters riding in a falcon with scatter laser and kinetic shrouds
Reaver squad with jetpacks and a fusion blaster


Cotorie "Hate Bringers"
2 x 2 hornet squads with 2 pulse lasers and kinetic Shroud
Lynx with Pulsar with Kinetic Shroud
1 Cloud Dancer with 3x Felarchs with Venom Blades
2 cloud Dancer groups with 6x scatter lasers
Baron is on a cloud dancer with shadowfield and venom blade.

so the idea is that my prince + baron and 3 Felarch Jetbikes will be in a melee squad going after units while I use the Reavers and other jetbikes to secure positions. Baron in the Sky burners cotorie will go with the one fusion blaster squad with the psyker. I'm thinking of outflanking my hornets and my scat bike squads and my reavers to get them into positions that I need them in.

The main rule is "boys before toys", but in your case I would suggest adding toys. Forcefield on your Prince and Shimmershield on your Barons keeps them, and their squad, alive longer.

What trait/obsession will you chose for the Prince? If you aim to get him into CC combat drugs could be very useful - or any Fear/Fearless artefact.

Why Hate Bringers? Titan Breaker would give your infantery and jetbikes Prefered Enemy against tanks and walkers, which helps the couldwalkers with Scatter Lasers. Add some Balestrikers with lances and jetpacks, since they are infantery.

In a 5000 (or 2500 x 2) points game my dedicated CC squad would not consist of 5 models, one power weapon, 3+ save and no invurnability/FnP. Not enough damage output, no staying power, no psychic powers and no special abilities.

Why no Haywire och Tanglefield grenades?

Reaper of the Outer Dark for Ramage/Rage.

I have thought about taking the specialization for artefacts and playing around with staking relics for -4 ld and psychic shriek (our group allows all hqs to take multiple relics, not just tau and necrons)

Hate bringers for rerolls of 1 in combat if a challenge, this is mostly for my warlord's deathstar since I have mostly venom blades and could use a reroll of 1's, and my tau partner is taking care of anti tank and titan Breaker isn't conferred to vehicles.

No haywire or Tanglefield because I felt that with the grenade rule, its too expensive.

Also I don't have models for Balestrikes. I plan to order some more jetpack kits and i might just use some general dudes as heavy weapon squads for this purpose.