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Morning Dakka,

I'm after some help with my emperors children HH army, I'm not looking for overly powerful, but I want a competent army to face loyalist imperial fists and iron hands with...please let me know what you think

+++ Emperors Children (2500pts) +++

++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (2500pts) ++

+ HQ +

Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker]
····Consul [Legion Champion]

Legion Praetor [Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Sonic Shrieker, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon]
····Master of the Legion [The Maru Skara]

+ Troops +

Legion Tactical Squad [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

+ Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon
Rules: Dreadnought Talon
····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon]
····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon]

Palatine Blade Squad [Jump packs, 9x Palatine Warrior, 9x Power Sword, Sonic Shriekers]
····Palatine Prefector [Power Sword]

Phoenix Terminator Squad [4x Phoenix Terminators, Sonic Shriekers]
····Legion Spartan Assault Tank [Frag Assault Launchers]

+ Fast Attack +

Legion Seeker Squad

+ Heavy Support +

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank [Lascannons]

+ Legion +

Legion Astartes [III: Emperor's Children, Traitor]

I feel you're very short on anti tank, and very low in scoring units. Even my standard 2000pt EC list includes a Sicaran and a pair of laser vindicators at a minimum for armor killing.

Ok, thanks, will have a reshuffle of some points and try to develop more troops and tanks


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Would this be more appropriate then?

+++ Emperors Children (2500pts) +++

++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) ++

+ HQ +

Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker]
····Consul [Legion Champion]

Legion Praetor [Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Sonic Shrieker, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon]
····Master of the Legion [The Maru Skara]

+ Troops +

Legion Assault Squad [9x Legion Assault Space Marines]
····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

+ Elites +

Palatine Blade Squad [Jump packs, 4x Palatine Warrior, 4x Power Sword, Sonic Shriekers]
····Palatine Prefector [Power Sword]

Phoenix Terminator Squad [4x Phoenix Terminators, Sonic Shriekers]
····Legion Spartan Assault Tank [Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield, Frag Assault Launchers]

+ Heavy Support +

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank [Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons]

Sicaran Venator Tank Destroyer [Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons]

+ Legion +

Legion Astartes [III: Emperor's Children, Traitor]

good list but if you use it i would reccomend dropping the maru skara and using the new ROW.

If I use the other RoW then maybe some karkophoni would be useful? I think if using the rite, then sonic shriekers should be used a lot, so I've mucked with points and this is what I've got, what do you think?

+++ Emperors Children (2497pts) +++

++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) ++

+ HQ +

Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker]
····Consul [Legion Champion]

Legion Praetor [Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Sonic Shrieker, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon]
····Master of the Legion [3rd Company Elite]

+ Troops +

Legion Assault Squad [9x Legion Assault Space Marines, Sonic Shriekers]
····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sonic Shriekers, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sonic Shriekers, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sonic Shriekers, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear]

+ Elites +

Palatine Blade Squad [Jump packs, 4x Palatine Warrior, 4x Power Sword, Sonic Shriekers]
····Palatine Prefector [Power Sword]

Phoenix Terminator Squad [4x Phoenix Terminators, Sonic Shriekers]
····Legion Spartan Assault Tank [Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield]

+ Heavy Support +

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank [Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons]

Sicaran Venator Tank Destroyer [Armoured Ceramite]

Legion Astartes [III: Emperor's Children, Traitor]

Yea its fantastic, to be honest with EC you just have to remember that if your gonna play to your legion strength you want to be stabbing things and sonic shriekers let you stab things more often and if your attacking at higher initiative ie +1 for charging and another +1 for the challenge you must declare anyway and getting more kills you often take less wounds yourself, only thing they dont work on is fearless units.
Charging and declaring a challenge with EC is fantastic as your sergeant suddenly attacks with his strength 5 ap2 weapon before the enemy preator and even a few primarchs get to attack back.