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Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






Hi all,

It's my first game ever of 30k tomorrow. I wanted to get some tips to make sure my list is ok.

I've never really played 40k either so I'm not sure what I should be bringing to games.

Jago Sevatarion
Command Squad
4x Chosen Marines
4x Combat Shields
1x Lightning Claw
1x Power Fist
2x Power Weapons
Melta Bombs
Drop Pod
410


Apothecarion
Artificer Armour
Augury Scanner
Power Sword
70

Cataphractii Terminator Squad
1x Terminator
Teleportaion Transponder
3x Pair of Lightning Claws
2x Combi Weapons & Chainfist
Grenade Harness
Combi Weapon & Chainfist
326

x2 Terror Squads
x7 Executioners
x7 Volkite
Headsman
Artificer Armour
Melta Bombs
440

Legion Heavy Support Squad
Lascannon
Artificer Armour
Augury Scanner
Melta Bombs
255

1501

I have a Calth contemptor with Kheres and ccw.

Kurze on the way as well for an Apoc match.

Really hoping for some direction here chaps as I'm an old 8th Warhammer player and firmly in an AoS mindset at the moment.

Not just on the list itself I suppose but how to go about deploying these fellas, especially with the infiltrate on the Terror Squads.

Thank you in advance!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/03 20:46:41


   
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

For the Command Squad I'd suggest swapping the Power Weapons for the Nostroman Chainglaive, they cost exactly the same and you lose out on 1 Attack for +1 Strength and Rending. Infact you should probably lose the Single Lightning Claw for another Chain Glaive.

Ya know when you have opportunity to model them.


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Oh and if you are running the Rite of War that allows Terror Squads as troops you need a Third Terror Squad.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/08/03 20:59:45


 
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






That would be a really nice fluff addition on the command squad. Can probably model them easily enough with grey Knights and chainswords.

Dang a third terror squad, thought two was all I needed for compulsory. I don't have any errors come up when I list them into Battlescribe. But that is battlescribe...

What would you recommend to swap out, run a basic 5 man and trim the other two squads down?

   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Yeah, probably slim the other squads down a bit. That would be easiest with out having to remodel terminators and HWS
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






Hi all,

I got smasheddddd in my last match.

Effectively tabled on turn three.

My infiltrating squads were pounded by a Scorpius, and squads with Nuncio vox's from the start. Losing chunks from my heavy weapons support squad.

When my drop pod with Sevetar and command squad came in, they were then buggered by the Vindicator.

As such I've altered my list:

Jago Sevatarion
175

Cataphractii Terminator Squad
3x Pair of Lightning Claws
1x Combi Weapons & Chainfist
Grenade Harness
Combi Weapon & Chainfist
Spartan Assault tank
Flare Shield

647

x2 Terror Squads
x4 Executioners
x4 Bolters
Headsman
Artificer Armour
Melta Bombs
Drop Pod

366

Legion Recon Squad
Cameleoline
Recon Armour (Stealth)
Sniper Rifles
Artificer on Sgt
160

Legion Sicarian Venator

1503

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2016/08/11 16:03:22


   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

What RoW are you using? I presume the Terror Assault one, at which point the list still isnt legal as you need 3 Terror Squads, since it makes Terror Squads into Compulsory Troops and requires you to have at Third Compulsory Troops choice.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/11 15:22:51


 
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






Bollocks, battle scribe only lists two so I keep forgetting.

Do you mind sharing the wording on the RoW?

Is it in the crusade army list or age of darkness book?

Ahhh I've got it.

Its in the AoD book.

Good spot!

I've updated my list accordingly.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/08/11 16:00:44


   
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

It should be in both the AoD book and Book 2. But you've found it already.

Also I would suggest Volkite on the Terror Squads as you want them charging and to have a chance to out number the opposing Squads when in CC.
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






I'm not sure where else I can shave off the points.

I love Sevetar for fluff, but maybe hes just to expensive, when I can get a Praetor in Cata armour to boost my termies?

To then add in the Volkite chargers.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/08/11 16:20:57


   
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Try losing the Spartan for a 1500 Point Game, pick up the 3rd Terror Squad, drop Sevatar for a Delegatus with a Chain Glaive, pick up Volkites on the Terror Squads and likely Glaives on the Headsmen so they hit harder.

Look at replacing the CataTermies with TartoTermies as them being able to sweeping advance would help the Night Lords with their desire to be in close.

Out of curiosity what are you facing mostly?
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






Off to play my next match tonight now actualy vs the same setup I think.

It's been a Dark Angels Ironwing 1.5k list so far.

Plasma Pred
Vindicator
Scorpius
2 10 man taq squads w/ Rhino
1x Mortis
2x CCW contemptors
Consul w/ Rhino

So gotta rush, really appreciate the help though man.

   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Is his Consul a Delegatus? if not how is he using a RoW with out having a Master of the Legion?

No problem man. Have fun and best of luck!
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






I got a little further this match.

He was certainly scared of the Venator.

Speaking with the guys in store, and the manager all of which are very friendly.

I need to trim down on the bigger point sinks certainly for 1.5k. Like dropping the spartan. Working on an alternate list for the weekend.

   
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Nice.

Though was the Consul a Delegatus?
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






I can't remember 100%, but I'm fairly certain he mentioned it was a Delegatus.

My opponents a fairly long term 40k player so he knows what hes doing. I on the other hand need more time to get the swing of it.

   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Ah, just making sure because if its any other Consul he can't run a RoW.
   
Made in gb
Noble Knight of the Realm






Hi all,

I've done quite a bit of thinking, and tried to stay close to fluff as possible. Here's my revised list at 2k.

++ HQ ++

Legion Praetor
Terror Rite of War
Digi Lasers
Iron Halo
Artificer
PF
LC
ToJ

185

Legion Centurion
Master Of Signals
Artificer Armour
Refractor Field

115

++ Elites ++

Apothecarion Detachment
1x Power Sword, Artificer
2x Power Sword,

175

++ Troops ++

x1 Terror Squads
x7 Executioners w/ Volkite Chargers
Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod
Headsman
Artificer Armour
Power Fist
Melta Bomb

x2 Terror Squads
x8 Executioners
Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod
Headsman
Artificer Armour
Power Fist
Melta Bomb

Legion Tactical Support Squad
Melta Guns
Sgt
Drop Pod

1257

++ Heavy Support ++

Legion Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron
x2 Vindicators Tanks
Machine Spirit
Combi-weapon
Dozer Blade

310

2000

C & C welcome.

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2016/08/22 13:32:48


   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Why the Power Fist and Lightning Claw on the Praetor? Also you could give him a Volkite Charger for some extra bang.

Have you considered the Chainglaive on the Apothecaries? They cost the same as the Power Sword but in my mind are better, +1S and Rending out weigh the loss of 1 attack.

Ask your self, "How useful will my Meltaguns be?" how much Armored Ceramite do you usually come across?
   
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine





*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Why the Power Fist and Lightning Claw on the Praetor? Also you could give him a Volkite Charger for some extra bang.

Have you considered the Chainglaive on the Apothecaries? They cost the same as the Power Sword but in my mind are better, +1S and Rending out weigh the loss of 1 attack.

Ask your self, "How useful will my Meltaguns be?" how much Armored Ceramite do you usually come across?


That does not sound like a medic I want to be around

Just out of curiosity but do people go paragon blades or chainglaives on there Praetors? and what does one have over the other?

Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts

 Grey Templar wrote:

Orks don't hate, they just love. Love to fight everyone.


Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP  
   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Paragon Blades for the +1S and AP2 Specialist Weapon with a chance for instant death, Chain glaive is +1S AP3 with Rending and Two Handed.

Paragon Blade is better for a CC Praetor who is the only one really that can take them in the Legion forces.

I'd give the Chainglaives to just about anyone else. Also a good thing about the Glaives, is that they can be taken by anyone with access to a Power Weapon and they cost the same as a Power Weapon.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/09/01 15:36:41


 
   
Made in gb
Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine





*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Paragon Blades for the +1S and AP2 Specialist Weapon with a chance for instant death, Chain glaive is +1S AP3 with Rending and Two Handed.

Paragon Blade is better for a CC Praetor who is the only one really that can take them in the Legion forces.

I'd give the Chainglaives to just about anyone else. Also a good thing about the Glaives, is that they can be taken by anyone with access to a Power Weapon and they cost the same as a Power Weapon.


Ok cheers for the help

Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts

 Grey Templar wrote:

Orks don't hate, they just love. Love to fight everyone.


Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP  
   
Made in us
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Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes

Yeah, no problem.
   
 
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