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vulkans hammer (dawnbringer) has some unique stats under the weapons profile, str 10 ap1, melee, concussive, armorbane, instant death and earthshatter.

earthshatter says- instead of attacking normally in an assault, vulkan may instead opt to place a blast (3") marker anywhere in b2b contact that does not cover any friendly models. all models under the blast suffer a single str 8 ap 3 with strikedown(lul)...

so heres the issue. im under the assumption you replace ALL vulkans attacks with a single small blast. however its very vague in its wording.

my friend says since the earthshatter rule is IN the weapons profile, you chose the way to resolve the attacks, either as str 8ap3 or with the hammers str10 ap1 badassery, and honestly i dont know what to think.

does anyone have any clue how this weapon is resolved?

Your friend is reading too much into those rules... S8 AP3 is what you should use, mate.

Cheers

Renegade_commander wrote:

earthshatter says- instead of attacking normally in an assault, vulkan may instead opt to place a blast (3") marker anywhere in b2b contact that does not cover any friendly models. all models under the blast suffer a single str 8 ap 3 with strikedown(lul)...

I don't personally have the rules, but reading how you presented it here sounds to me like the Earthshatter part of the rule is optional as in you have a choice 1 blast marker hit at str 8 ap 3 or multiple str 10 ap 1 attacks.

Renegade_commander wrote:
vulkans hammer (dawnbringer) has some unique stats under the weapons profile, str 10 ap1, melee, concussive, armorbane, instant death and earthshatter.

earthshatter says- instead of attacking normally in an assault, vulkan may instead opt to place a blast (3") marker anywhere in b2b contact that does not cover any friendly models. all models under the blast suffer a single str 8 ap 3 with strikedown(lul)...

so heres the issue. im under the assumption you replace ALL vulkans attacks with a single small blast. however its very vague in its wording.

my friend says since the earthshatter rule is IN the weapons profile, you chose the way to resolve the attacks, either as str 8ap3 or with the hammers str10 ap1 badassery, and honestly i dont know what to think.

does anyone have any clue how this weapon is resolved?

If you use the blast you use the S8 AP3 strikedown method - you place the blast instead of attacking like normal; so technically the model hasn't actually attacked the opponent, it has placed a template with an effect during the assault phase.
If you haven't 'attacked' the enemy in assault then you can't claim the effects from an assault weapon which a model has in it's wargear.

Renegade_commander wrote:
my friend says since the earthshatter rule is IN the weapons profile, you chose the way to resolve the attacks, either as str 8ap3 or with the hammers str10 ap1 badassery, and honestly i dont know what to think.

does anyone have any clue how this weapon is resolved?

You make normal attacks at S10 Ap1 or sacrifice all the attacks for the template.

yeah the way he has been playing it is he either has 4 attacks at str 10 ap1 or substitutes those for 4 attacks at str 8ap3 small blast that he places using the rules described above instead of normal attacks