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Been a little while since I played and I have a game set up for Saturday. Let me know what you all think.

Darth Vader- Cluster Missiles

Howlrunner

Academy Tie

Deathrain- Cluster Mines, Extra Munitions, Ion Bombs, Plasma Torpedos

100pts

Seems a bit random, and you're paying a lot for ordinance that you probably don't need.

Vader should always have the Tie/x1 title and Advanced Targeting Computer. I'd also suggest giving him engine upgrade and an EPT if you're going to take him. He probably doesn't need a missile.

Howlrunner is a bit wasted in this list, as you have few ship to capitalise on her ability, and her ability only works with primary weapons, so it's little assistance to Deathrian. I'd reconsider her and Academy Pilot, and maybe put more points into Vader.

Deathrain seems a bit unfocused. If he drops a bomb he won't be able to Target Lock for his Torps, and vice versa. If you want to use him to drop bombs forward, then I'd suggest taking Enhanced Scopes so you can move before everyone else and make sure you're dropping them right in their path. I wouldn't bother with Ion bombs. Also be careful with Cluster Mines, as they are quite wide, and if you run into a tractor beam you might get boosted into into your own mines. I think Connor net is usually a better option, and works well against aces.

If you're going missiles and torps, then you should take guidance chips, and probably Fire Control System. Or you could go Cluster Missiles and Accuracy Corrector, which tends to sting. But then of course, you wouldn't need Deathrain.

Honestly, it's just a bad list, and that's about all I can say. None of the ships are equipped well, and there's no synergy between any of them. I don't think there's anything you can do here besides scrap the list and start over with something else. I suggest looking through tournament results (worlds just happened and is a good starting point) and seeing what lists are working right now.

Definitely take the TIE/x1 title - it was intended as a "fix" and the ship was rather underpowered before it. Vader also really, really likes engine upgrade - he has the highest pilot skill in the game and a free action every turn - he can really make good use of boost to jink out of arcs of fire or close to range 1.

Cluster missiles are okay, but if you've got points and really want a missile, I'd suggest proton rockets -shorter range but cheaper and they hit like a tonne of bricks.

Deathraìn - I think the main problem is that even with shields, I doubt he'll get all that ordnance off before he dies. I'd just stick with the bombs. One mine (cluster mines) and one bomb (ion bombs) are a decent combination - use the former for aces moving after you, the latter for generics moving before.

You might, as noted, want to look at othrr TIE pilots. If you have access to crack shot as an elite pilot talent, it's "a thing" for a good reason. Otherwise, backstabber is always good as a lobe tie fighter -an extra die is better than a reroll.

Howlrunners problem working with academy pilots is that her ability only works if she's still alive when the other fighter shoots. Fine with PS9 vader, kind of an issue with a PS1 academy pilot.

If you really want a bomber, maybe downgrade to a TIE Bomber, invest as few points into it as possible, and use the rest of the points for more ships/upgrades on Vader.

Thanks for the help everyone! Here is the list I think I will be going with...

Vader- Tie Advanced/x1 Engine Upgrade, Advanced Targeting

Deathrain- Enhanced Scopes, Extra Munitions, Cluster Mines, Ion Bombs

Night Beast

Dark Curse

100pts