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No HTH units here, just pure shoot em up.

HQ:
Master w/ storm bolter
Retinue: 7 bolter marines, 2 plasma gun, + apothecary to save those plasma guns that blow up in your face

Troop:
1. 9 bolter + 1 plasma in rhino (Extra Armor & smoke)
2. 5 bolter + lascannon (not enough ponts to get the plas)

Fast
3 squads of 1 landspeeder tornado

Heavy:
Pred Des w/ side HB, Extra Armor, Smoke & Searchlight to use up that 1 extra. point that was left over.

if you have the points for this after 3 tornados and a pred then you have the points for 3x 6 man las/plas squads and then you can spend some more points making your master a HtH monster and save him back with a jump pack and maybe some LC's and use for counter assault.

but then it would be just shooty not shooooooty. Do you think the pred is overkill though? Maybe better off with another las/plas squad?

my point is that a master with a storm bolter isn't very uber, while useful for the LD10 you'll be better off tooled for combat and used as counter-assault which is going to be a weakness for this list. and 3x6 man las plas should be the basis of most marine armies. in smaller point games a single high AV vehicle and be deadly when your opponent forgets to include anti-tank weaponry or cannot include much b/c of the point limit or assumes that noone will bring high AV b/c of the point limit. you're already highly mobile and shooty with the pred and speeders. you'll get even more shooty with 3 las/plas squads and the best use for your last points would probably a counter-assault unit. since you have to take an HQ at this point lvl and a librarian would be pretty expensive as would a chaplain a hth master is a good choice. you don't have to do that if you don't want to but it keeps your list from being completely 1 dimentional and gives you a big punch if you get swarmed by a 20 ork mob or a 12 genestealer brood.