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Hi guys,
So, I have started an EC army, and I'm planning my future purchases.

I think I will play the Maru Skara ROW, now that the cataphractii aren't "slow and purposeful" anymore (I have some from BaC).
I don't want a spartan, and Land Raiders only have a transport capability of 10, when I want to play 5 cataphractii + HQ in cataphractii armor in the same unit
So I will play them as part of the "Hidden Blade".

What do you think about seekers in a rhino for the hidden blade ? Only 5 of them with combi-plasma deal 9/10 wounds (5 cataphractii dead). They are expensive, and fragile, but coming thanks to the hidden blades helps a lot.
And what do you think about phoenix power spears on tactical sergeants ?
I guess the jetbikes are used to attack weak units, like support squad ?


For the moment my list looks like this, but I only have the old HH book 1 (it's just to discuss global tactics, not prices etc...):

1 praetor (cataphractii armour, master-crafted thunder hammer, digilaser, combi-weapon, sonic shrieker): 190
1 chapelain (artificer armour, jump pack, refractor field, sonic shrieker): 165
1 champion ( poenix power spear, sonic shrieker, jetbike, refractor field) 215

5 palatine blades (jump packs, 3 phoenix spears, sonic shriekers) 195
5 cataphractii (4 power fists, sergeant with phoenix spear, 5 combi-weapons) 235
1 Contemptor (kheres, heavy flamer) 195

15 Tactical Marines (vexila, artificer armour on the sergeant) 220
15 Tactical Marines (vexila, artificer armour on the sergeant) 220

5 Seekers in rhino 260
3 Outriders ( 3 twin-linked melta or plasma) 165
3 Jetbike Sky-Hunter (volkite culverin, sergeant with phoenix power spear) 170

1 Predator (lascannons sponsons) 125
1 Predator (lascannons sponsons) 125

almsot 2500, with the old prices.

The champion will be with the jetbike unit, the chaplain with the Palatine Blades, and the praetor with the cataphractii.
My hidden blade would be: seekers, cataphractii and I don't know, maybe jetbikes, maybe the dreadnought or maybe the palatine blades.

Feel free to discuss EC's units/tactics not shown on my list !

Hey man.

List looks strong but I think you are lacking somewhat in anti armour. Yes you took PF on your terminators but you have the option for chainfists which do the same job better.

I don't see where the seekers are going to aid you. If you are playing the army how I think you are you will be bearing down the enemy's neck and in assault in short order anyway. 5 power armoured seekers just doesn't feel worth it, and I would look to putting my points in some more static (although possibly unbefitting) ranged batteries such as Rapiers.
What kind of predators are you building? Magna melta? Executioners? I feel like an abundance of S7 just wont cut it against most lists you see placed here on Dakka.

Cataphractii armor is a huge gimp for EC. They get bonuses to overrunning, but with that armor, you can't overrun.

It's a solid list though. I've seen Maru Skar used very well many times.

Instead of outsiders, do you have the points for 3 javelin, which can serpentine and include missiles?

Happpy New Year everyone !
And thank you for your answers.

Yes, if I don't take the seekers, I guess I can take the speeders.

The predators have autocannons and lascannons, in order to destroy rhino, things like that.

I know, I have nothing to destroy a spartan for example :(

Some of the units seem too slow (cataphratii) or too small (the palentines) to be effective. It looks a little like you're trying to do too many things at once.

10 Palentines with a Chaplain and a Jump Pack Praetor would be fantastic (and EXPENSIVE) and roll through everything they touched while still being fast.

I don't have my books with me but i know that Maru Skara has some restrictions about immobile and slow and purposeful units.

I think the outriders and the Seekers are doing about the same job, so might be redundant. Javelins, in keeping with the fast choices, with Lascannons are a nice option as they can get shots into the side armour of most things.

I've been using a Venator in my EC lists and it's proven very effective at removing big tanks (though doesn't live long)

 chelsea_hollywood wrote:
Some of the units seem too slow (cataphratii) or too small (the palentines) to be effective. It looks a little like you're trying to do too many things at once.

10 Palentines with a Chaplain and a Jump Pack Praetor would be fantastic (and EXPENSIVE) and roll through everything they touched while still being fast.

I don't have my books with me but i know that Maru Skara has some restrictions about immobile and slow and purposeful units.

I think the outriders and the Seekers are doing about the same job, so might be redundant. Javelins, in keeping with the fast choices, with Lascannons are a nice option as they can get shots into the side armour of most things.

I've been using a Venator in my EC lists and it's proven very effective at removing big tanks (though doesn't live long)

Absolutely. You can't take immobile or slow and purposeful units with the Maru Skara ROW. Hoewever, cataphractii aren't SP anymore (but they still have the same effect, just not the same rule), so I can use them.
10 men in the squad seem obviously better in deed.

Any idea on how to make 10 Palatine Blades without any "double" ? using charnabal sabers and phoenix power spears will give me some variety I guess.

Do you think it is worth it to put phoenix power spears on the Tactical sergeants ?

Just use different combinations of arms and torsos and you end up with ten unique Palatine Blades. I gave my sergeant a plasma pistol for a bit of variety, and I was toying with a mix of Charnabal sabres and power weapons (power weapons - painted blue-black, Charnabal sabres - painted red).