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Hi guys,

So I'm theorycrafting my next army, after my Necrons I'm just collecting and making 2k point lists from other factions that look fun to build, paint and play with. But I dont want them to be useless on the tabletop, so I will make exceptions where I can. In that vein, is this a viable list or have I missed the mark?

Canis Wolfborn
Rune Priest on bike w/ Storm caller, Runic armour, Runix axe
Wolf Priest on bike
5x Blood Claws w/ power axe on pack leader
5x Blood Claws w/ power sword on pack leader
5x Intercessor's
5x Wulfen - 4 w/ TH&SS, FC on leader
13x Wolves w/ 1x Cyberwolf
3x TWC w/ TH&SS
1x Drop Pod

1x Knight Crusader w/ IMP, RFBC & HS, HS

I dont have the codex so I dont know if wulfen can ride in drop pods but the idea is to just bum rush up the board with the wolves, the priests and canis buffing the whole squad. When they are in position, DS in the wulfen in the drop pod w/ 1x squad of BC, then charge everything into combat. The wulfen and TWC do the work on the vehiclesl/big nasties while the wolves and knight blast the infantry/chaff.

The intercessors are because I wanted some primaris, I like the models, and I've always wanted a knight. Canis looks awesome and want to build an army around him as a HQ (I know a battle leader on TW is a more points efficient option).

Wulfen can't ride in pods anymore, they can only be embarked on land raiders or a stormwolf.

Canis, drop pod, fenrisian wolves and intercessors are all meh if not bad units. This list looks quite squishy since other than the knight everything else can be crippled by a single round of shooting.

TWC, terminators, wolf guard of any kind, long fangs, rhinos/razorbacks and a stormwolf are all solid choices. Blood claws are good in big blobs or at least embarked in rhinos, small units are almost useless, grey hunters are better for that role. If you really want primaris consider hellblasters, near a wolf lord they can even re-roll hit of 1s so they're going to overcharge all the time without problems.

Okay so had a rethink, and this will save me money in the long run aswell!

1x WGBL w/ TWC, PA, SS
1x WL w/ BP, FA
5x Wulfen w/ 4 TH & SS, 1 set FC
3x TWC w/ TH & SS
5x Hellblasters
5x Hellblasters
1x LRC w/ HKM, MM, SB
1x Knight Crusader w/ IMP, HS, RFBC/HS

Fast, elite and capable of alot of damage.

Wow, only 4 drops is pretty cool. Fast turns, lots of damage.

It might be worth considering bikers over twc to get more bodies unless you want them as a dedicated close combat unit. They could get targeted down by your opponent's anti infantry shooting with the rest of your non vehicle/non characters being in the LRC.

I would only give the twc sarge a hammer; the other 2 are fine with chainsword since they will have wounds allocated to them first logically.

If you are hard-pressed to try hellblasters, they are pretty scary. Alternatively 5 wolf guard with combi plasma/chainsword are 35 points cheaper. They can also take storm shields for 5 points each but miss out on the 2 wounds.

I would consider running TWC as larger units if you want to take them. I personally love the models and the idea of cavalry, and run a pack of 6 around Harald Deathwold. I have them kitted as anti infantry/light vehicle killing units to avoid spending too many points on them.

Is the LRC for the wulfen then?

One other possible suggestion would be something other than the vanilla wolf lord, there options out there for similar points that give better auras.

Yeah I just love the TWC, and want to try out primaris, so the wolf lord is just babysitting them at the back all game.

Yeah the LR is for the wulfen. I figure it's dakka and the knights will be enough to clear out most infantry blobs/screens to let the puppies swing on the vehicles/scary targets.

If the wolf lord is just babysitting consider a wolf guard battle leader instead. Do you have any SW models yet or are you just starting out your collection?

CptRumHam wrote:
If the wolf lord is just babysitting consider a wolf guard battle leader instead. Do you have any SW models yet or are you just starting out your collection?

I think the idea of babysitting is to reroll the 1's to enable safer overcharging for Hellblasters. WGBL doesn't help with that at all.

I see in the Index this rule :

1 These vehicles can also transport Wulfen.
Each Wulfen model takes the space of two
other models.

Is this me or it can be understood that Wulfen can ride into other vehicules like Pods and Rhinos ? Because Wulfen have a Chapter and the Infantry Keywords. I do not see where it says they can't ride in them then.

Ulriktheslayer wrote:
I see in the Index this rule :

1 These vehicles can also transport Wulfen.
Each Wulfen model takes the space of two
other models.

Is this me or it can be understood that Wulfen can ride into other vehicules like Pods and Rhinos ? Because Wulfen have a Chapter and the Infantry Keywords. I do not see where it says they can't ride in them then.

It means only the vehicles marked with the small 'one' can transport Wulfen. So only the Land Raider variants.

Okay or not (It says it can "also") but where is the restriction to transport Wulfens on other Vehicules ? Can't see it and actually they fit the keywords restrictions.

I suppose that they should have said : "Wulfen's cant be transported except in Land Raider(s) and Stormwolves" but this is not what is written actually as you try to inform me.

I'd lose the primaris and get another squad of TWC. Use a wolf lord on TW. I'd give them storm shield and wolf claws, keeping them near him so they are re-rolling hits and re-rolling to wound. It's savage

If the wulfen can keep pace then their ability could be interesting on them.

Have no models yet, still have some harlequins and drukhari to slog through before I start purchasing SW stuff. I love the wulfen and TWC, not happy to drop either tbh. Might drop the hell blasters for more puppies, although I do think I could use the hellblasters if I wanted a different flavour of SM.

Yea I was confused with wulfen too, they say the vehicles can only transport infantry and I'd assume they would be infantry?

Can the stormwolf no longer transport them? Also I apologize for thinking you only had 4 drops, I didn't realize the wulfen took 2 spots so my initial thoughts were the hellblasters and wulfen were sharing the lrc. Still a fun looking list.

Ulriktheslayer wrote:
Okay or not (It says it can "also") but where is the restriction to transport Wulfens on other Vehicules ? Can't see it and actually they fit the keywords restrictions.

I suppose that they should have said : "Wulfen's cant be transported except in Land Raider(s) and Stormwolves" but this is not what is written actually as you try to inform me.

Yeah sorry, only Land Raiders from that page. Stormwolf and Stormfang have mention on their datasheet that they can transport Wulfen.