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Been playing this list lately, even had really good success in a recent ITC tournament with it. How can I improve it?

All in all... my current feelings on it are...
a.) the manticore always performs... okay. Not great. but over the course of a game he does put out some hurt.
b.) St. Celestine rarely makes up her points. yes she is a good harassment unit, however she is pretty easy to beat. Also, she isn't enough presence to help the armor push forward into combat.

How can I improve this list?

Thanks for any help.

Astra Militarum - Catachan
Spearhead
Leman Russ Tank commander - punisher, 2x heavy bolter, lascannon

Hellhound - Heavy flamer

Leman Russ Battle Tank - Heavy bolter, Battle Cannon

2x Leman Russ Executioners
-Heavy bolter w/ plasma sponsons
-heavy bolter

Manticore

Astra Militarum - Tallern
Battalion

Company Commander - Plasma pistol, Power Sword
Tempestor Prime - Power Sword, Command Rod

Conscripts (20)
Scions - 2x Plamsa gun, Plasma Pistol
Scions - 2x Plasma gun, Plasma Pistol

Command squad - 4x Plasma Gun
Special Weapons Squad - 3x plasma gun

Chimera - multilaser, heavy bolter
Chimera - Multilaser, heavy bolter

Vulture Gunship

Astra Militarum/Astra Ministorum
Supreme Command

St. Celestine
Primaris Psyker - Nightshroud, Psychic Maelstrom
Primaris Psyker - Psychic barrier, Psychic Maelstrom
Primaris Psyker - Psychic barrier, Gaze of the emperor

1. I'm assuming the vulture is a punisher vulture?
2. Swapping the Plasma Sponsons on the bs4 russ to your commander would probably be a good idea
3. You're not getting a lot out of your Catachan doctrine. Swap the multilasers for heavy bolters on the 2 Chimera, swap the HFlamer on the hellhound for a hbolter, drop the hbolter sponsons from the swap in 2, and you can take another 2 plasma cannons (and be exactly 2k)
4. Consider dropping one of the primaris altogether and taking an astropath in the same detachment, that's another set of plasma cannons for your russ

 malamis wrote:
1. I'm assuming the vulture is a punisher vulture?
2. Swapping the Plasma Sponsons on the bs4 russ to your commander would probably be a good idea
3. You're not getting a lot out of your Catachan doctrine. Swap the multilasers for heavy bolters on the 2 Chimera, swap the HFlamer on the hellhound for a hbolter, drop the hbolter sponsons from the swap in 2, and you can take another 2 plasma cannons (and be exactly 2k)
4. Consider dropping one of the primaris altogether and taking an astropath in the same detachment, that's another set of plasma cannons for your russ

1. Yes, a punisher vulture.
2. I've thought about putting plasma sponsons on him, but hadn't yet because he can't reroll 1s. It's less punishing now for rolling 1s.
3. The catachan doctrine for the Leman Russes was nice. What would you suggest? I am toying with cadian since that gives me pask and also he can give the order to rerolling random numbers for the Russes. It however makes my manticore and hell hound less effective

Tallern works on the Chimera but is meh. Was toying with Armageddon for the better range on my plasma guns.

4. I like this suggestion. I found the my psykers rarely cast smite and more often are casting defensive buffs. The Astropath does that just as well for 1/3 the points and gives ignore cover (if in range).

1. Punisher Vulture is Best Vulture
2. Self ordering tank commanders can get the reroll - it actually makes catachan tank commanders with explosives the best of the lot unless you're using the cadian stratagem; in which case the cadians are ahead by about 5%~
3. Catachan is fine; you just have to lean into it - get moar random shot weapons

Been thinking about making the Commander an executioner over a punisher. But those 40 shots are just nice