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Hey all, allies question here.

I play legions of nagash, legion of blood.

I like me some of those new Nighthaunts, they are sexy, have awesome models and great rules.

I want to run my regular list and add to it:
Le Guardian of Souls
A unit of grimghast reapers
A unit of blade wraith things (you know the ones)
A unit of Myrmourn banshees
The nighthaunt black coach

So, how does that work with the new general's handbook?

As some of those are officially legions of nagash, some of them are allies. Then, do the allies get the legion of blood allegiance abilities and lose the nighthaunt ones? Do they gain or lose any keywords? Is it still max 20% of your points limit in points? Will I be able to use the nighthaunt spells? What about artefacts? What about the endless spells? Are grimghast reapers battleline in legions of nagash?

Thanks in advance, I realise it's quite the conundrum, a mishmash of different spells and abilities and rules.

I also realise most of this would be solved in the ghb, however I won't have one for a while and would like to plan my list now.


Thanks all, hope someone can help me out here!!

So I believe I'm about to give you correct information but I'm going solely off of what I'm gathering from reading the allies sections of the core rulebook.

So with the night haunts that can be taken as part of a LoB army (not allies) would receive and benefit from all the Alligence abilites that come with being part of LoB, Deathless minions, Unquiet Dead, Immortal Majesty, and Endless legions. On the flip side they would not benefit from any of the Alligence Abilites that a Battletome:Nighthaunts version would get, fpr example: begin able to immediately attack if they roll a 10+ on a charge.

Now if you were to Ally in a a group of Nighthaunts they would work in the completely opposite manner, sporting all the Alligence Abilities of Battletome:Nighthaunts.

Also, yes allies still.can only make up 1/5 of your total points.

The nifty thing about Legions of Nagash and Nighthaunts is that the Gravesite's Invigorating Aura and the Endless legions command ability specify friendly <SUMMONABLE> units so they SHOULD still work on units that fall into that category even if they're allies and not part of your Legion of Blood force.

Thanks for the answer, that sounds pretty powerful. How do artefacts work in that case? If I bring a battalion could I grab one artefact from LoB for a LoB hero and one Nighthaunt artefact for a Nighthaunt hero?


It seems pretty brutal too, Nighthaunt units aren't meant to be supported by gravesites, I can imagine an faq soon that says "Units with Nighthaunt allegiance cannot interact with gravesites" otherwise it makes such an alliance incredibly strong.

Here's the errata for Legions of Nagash: https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/age_of_sigmar_legions_of_nagash_errata_en.pdf

Relevant part:

LoN Errata June 2018 wrote:
Page 60
– Legions of Nagash
Add:
‘The following units may be selected as part of a Grand
Host of Nagash, Legion of Sacrament, Legion of Blood
or Legion of Night army and gain the appropriate
faction keyword:
• Chainrasp Horde
• Glaivewraith Stalkers
• Grimghast Reapers
• Guardian of Souls
• Knight of Shrouds
• Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed
• Lord Executioner
• Spirit Torment’

So you just treat the Nighhaunt stuff in that list as part of the same battletome, and they benefit from all the allegiance abilities.

Anything else not in that list will need to be included as an ally, and if you do that they don't get the Nighthaunt allegiance abilities.

So wait up, got two contradicting answers now.

Let's take a black coach, from the nighthaunts (not the LEGION black coach) as an example.

I want to use one with my Legions of nagash, as an ally. So I ally it in. Now does the black coach get my legion of blood allegiance and abilities or does the black coach get the nighthaunt allegiance and abilities... Or does it not get any allegiance abilities from anywhere?

It doesn't get any. Allies don't get to use their own allegiance abilities.

Thommy H wrote:
It doesn't get any. Allies don't get to use their own allegiance abilities.

Could you list a book and page number for that pkease? I'm either not looking in the right place or just blind.

Edit: Nevermind I was literally looking right at it, I'm just blind
Core rulebook page 242

Yeah, core rules, under Allies on page 15.