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2018/07/22 23:57:46
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Iam getting mixed messages about this. In Eight Lamentations they lose a load of guys to Skaven. Then in a Eight Lamentations short story a human knight manages to kill a Blight King. If Chaos Warriors in Age of Sigmar are basically Chaos Marines relative to the Stormcast then how come he is able to do that. It’s like a guardsman killing a Plague Marine. In 40k you regularly get stuff where las guns can only chip the paint off astartes plate. The first chapter of the Horus Heresy really pushes this idea that marines are just beyond mortal soldiers and that’s a staple of Black Library material.
When I read Wardens of the Everqueen I didn’t get the sense that they were particularly better man for man than the Chaos warriors they fight. I get that the whole point is they are on the back foot and running. But not all of the Chaos host should consist of guys at that level. It shouldn’t read like your magically infused super soldiers might as well just be Roman Legionaries.
This even goes to some of the human interactions. It does happen now and agin but in Soul Wars particularly they don’t really remark on the sheer physicality and presence that they have. Basically people notice if you’re talking to a seven (eight?) foot walking tank. In a 40k novel this does regularly come up, even in small things like Kharn picking up a lasgun that his finger doesn’t fit into so he used it as a club. It particularly irked me in Soul Wars because that book dwells quite a lot on the price is of becoming a Stormcast and how it can set them apart from humanity.
You do get statements about them being good fighters and being amazing. But, you could get that with the Reiksguard. Saying they’re good doesn’t really qualify it when said in isolation. They’re a bit vague, I suppose.
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2018/07/23 00:03:22
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Clousseau
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There are many stories where they show them laying the beatdown on normal people and how normal people pale in comparison to stormcast and how the stormcast can stomp a normal man with little effort.
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2018/07/23 00:08:47
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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I didn't realize Stormcast were that much larger than your average human soldier in the fluff... basically same scale of a chaos warrior to a chaos cultists. Bigger, bulkier, but not super humanly so, just the armour makes them appear so.
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2018/07/23 11:38:06
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ClassicCarraway wrote:I didn't realize Stormcast were that much larger than your average human soldier in the fluff... basically same scale of a chaos warrior to a chaos cultists. Bigger, bulkier, but not super humanly so, just the armour makes them appear so.
Yeah I mean in my head fluff, if the model is bigger than a Space Marine then it’s bigger than a marine. But I think one of the authors said they are 7 foot tall which isn’t that big in the grand scheme of things. In fact in Soul Wars there’s a random human mercenary who’s described as being that tall. If you’ve played Space Marine the video game for example or that Inquisitor fan film it conveys the difference in scale pretty well.
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Starting Sons of Horus Legion
Starting Daughters of Khaine
2000pts Sisters of Silence
4000pts Fists Legion
Sylvaneth A forest
III Legion 5000pts
XIII Legion 9000pts
Hive Fleet Khadrim 5000pts
Kabal of the Torn Lotus .4000pts
Coalition of neo Sacea 5000pts
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2018/07/23 13:37:58
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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In my head, I always thought them to be regular Joe's wrapped in mystic armour that enhances them a little, and armed with weapons that are far more effective than your typical sword or bow....that and being effectively immortal is what puts them so over the top, not their physical attributes.
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2018/07/23 13:50:00
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Clousseau
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The novels have them being very much taller and stronger than normal people. On par with space marines.
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2018/07/24 16:59:58
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Slaanesh Havoc with Blastmaster
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I think Stormcast should be massive AND in big armor,
tougher and stronger than mortals by quite a bit
sadly, for me, the GW fluff (and my head cannon)
always runs far more powerful than the rules...
:(
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2018/07/24 18:41:30
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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I've found the rules and fiction to match quite well for the stormcast. Some times you have a run of good saves or the 2 wounds a model keep them around and other times the saves don't go your way and they die. You get pretty much the same mixed bag on the table top as you do in the novels.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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2018/07/25 13:51:36
Subject: Stormcast Power Level in Black Library novels
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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The AoS setting has bonkers everyday stuff like cities on the backs of colossal monsters and tree people casually walking down the street, no one’s gonna look twice or remark on a really tall guy in armor.
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