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I play very infrequently, and only against a friend of mine who plays dark angels. In 8th edition I have smashed him, and I don't think that I have been bringing an OP list. I bring the models that I think
look coolest which, for example, includes my Vanquisher.
He tends to bring Sableclaw with some supporting land speeders, a dark shroud, some death wing terminators, and very few infantry. He has lots of tactical marines and I think a decent number of
scouts. He also has some jet bikes, I can't remember if they are black knights or normal or some of both.
With that as background, I wanted to ask two things:
1) Are there any general strategies in terms of what to bring against Astra Militarum?
2) With Xmas coming, I would like to get him a character. Is there a character that would be especially useful against Astra Militarum?
thanks



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oops one question I forgot, is there anything that I should avoid bringing because it is just too well targeted against Dark Angels?
Thanks

I would wait to make the decision until after Chapter Approved comes out next week. I think by the weekend we will have an idea of what will change.

Against AM, i would take some dark talons, they have good amount of shots and with dark shroud they are -2 to hit.
And the stasis bomb is exccelent agains large squads of guardsmen

My current list consists of samael on sableclaw,talonsmaster, 3 darktalons, darkshroud, scouts and plasma inceptors.
Taking some bloodanegl captains or a librarian dreadnoght makes it even better.

I havent played against an AM player, but i think such combination of units will be great because flyers can remain at -2 to hit for at least 2 turns if darkshroud survives.
And landspeeder characters cant be shot at until flyers are dead, basically AM player will be hitting only on 6s

In my first turn i would use flyers and speeders to clear out all the screens, if any vehicle is in range of blood angel captain or librarian dreadnoght during first turn it will go down.
On second turn i would drop plasma inceptors and deal with the rest of vehicles, while dark talons and speeders deal with infantry

Heres a possible combo when taking BA captain:
Give him relic to for ignoring overwatch
make him death company - +1 attack and 6+ feel no pain
make him your warlord and take +1 to damage

Now if you got lucky to go firts you can spend 2cp to move him before battle begins thats 12+D6 move since you can also advance
So a BA captain can move up to 24+D6 on first turn and is likely to get in range with something valuable
Now, lets count attacks, thats 4 base +1 for being death company + d3 using stratgem thats 7 attacks on average.
Dont forget that you can fight for a second time or after dying thats 14 attacks 8 -3 4. it will be enough to kill most things.

Librarian dreadnought is also great,
On your first turn, move him up to 12 inches after successfully casting psychic power. then move again = 24 inch move
Cast another psychic power to gain +d3 attack
Use stratagem for additional d3 attacks
That will be 3+2d3 attacks with 10 -4 4 profile and then fight for a second time, those shadowswords will take direct damage and die turn one

Hey Timur, thanks for the advice. I'll see about getting him a dark talon.

From the brief run down you've given us, it sounds like he has almost no anti tank to speak of. You could try swapping out a Leman Russ for some more infantry and see if that makes a difference.