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Ok, I am an merican and in america you cannot ban any groups, no matter what they are or advocate.

So when I heard about a couple in england who ad named their son "Adolf Hitler" ( god help that kid...) being sentenced to orison for belonging in a banned group, I just don't understand how that works.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-news-couple-sentenced-jail-banned-british-group-20181218-story.html

How do you "ban" a group in a free country? How do you define beings member of a banned group? Is it an imprisonable offense to say you share a group's views?

If anyone from England who comes here could try to explain it to me i'd appreciate it. I admit as an american i'm not fully knowledgeable of a lot of other cultures but I am curious and trying to understand how a group is banned in a free society and what the laws really are. I donct want a lawyer to explain it to me i'd like to hear it from a person, especially a fellow gamer who I can at least possibly relate to in some ways.

"I don't want a lawyer to explain the law to me, I want a gamer to" is genuinely one of the strangest things I've ever seen on this forum.

Lawyers are often hard to talk with. I was hoping someone who isn't a lawyer but grew up in and lives in English society could explain it to me. If the person is a gamer therecs a better chance we might think along similar OK es in some ways.

"How do you "ban" a group in a free country?"

By understanding that freedom of expression is not freedom from consequence, and that undertaking sufficient amounts of "_ist" actions doesn't tend to sit well with either public opinion or, indeed, the law. In the case of National Action, they were a Neo-Nazi group that ended up stirring up enough trouble to be branded a Terrorist Organisation.

"How do you define beings member of a banned group?"

I mean, how do you define membership to anything that doesn't exactly include a card to say 'Certified Neo-Nazi'? A combination of their actions, interactions with others of the same political and ideological persuasion, movements, and no doubt physical or digital evidence.

"Is it an imprisonable offense to say you share a group's views?"

That would depend on how you say it, and likely also to whom. If you come out and say 'I agree with Neo-Nazis' then no, all people can do is think less of you and steer their kids away.

If instead you rattle off a list of the things Neo-Nazis would likely have as views, I'd wager a number of those might be actionable as hate speech--a sometimes embarrassingly far-reaching, vague, and ill-defined term in English law, but there are some things that cannot be anything but hate speech.

Then there's saying 'I agree with Neo-Nazis' to a Jewish person, which could well fall under intentioned hate speech despite not going into specifics, in much the same way as addressing a black person with 'them KKK fellas have the right way of it' also might not go down particularly well.

So yes, there are many ways of going about getting yourself locked up by sharing certain views, generally all of which stem from one personality trait: that of being a completely irredeemable menace to society.

This is basically politics. But the short answer is "They are not a free country".

 Techpriestsupport wrote:

How do you "ban" a group in a free country? How do you define beings member of a banned group? Is it an imprisonable offense to say you share a group's views?

To adequately answer these questions, you would probably also have to define what is meant by a 'free country' and the reasons that groups like this might be banned, and I'm not really seeing any way to do that without it crossing into politics. Which would mean that this forum really isn't the place for this discussion.