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2019/01/03 12:13:36
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Ok, as I recall some chapoters were tottering on the edge of extinction before the beginning of the new edition.
1. Flesh tearers: Going insane due to increasing black rage levels. Also apparently being thrown into a suicidal assault on the tyranids so they could die out doing some good.
2. Mantis warriors: Yeah, on the wrong side during the badab war, granted forgiveness subject to a 100 year penitent crusade which seemed meant to kill them off so they could be forgiven posthumously.
3. Lamenters, same as above, plus always dying out anyway.
4.Space wolves, Fenris was devastated, all fenris wolves were apparently destroyed, they spacwewolves were nearly sentenced to extermination along with fenris for heresy. I gues they survive as they were too popular to kill off.
So have any chapters been confirmed wiped out before guilleman came along with primaris reinforcements?
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"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura. |
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2019/01/03 12:27:04
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lamenters are still around. They've popped up in the fluff since 8th.
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2019/01/03 12:34:14
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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The easy handwave to allow chapters to survive the time jump is that they got Primaris reinforcements at the start of the Indomitus Crusade.
I would generally assume this is the case unless/until there is canon to the contrary.
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2019/01/03 12:58:51
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
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2019/01/03 13:08:59
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Flesh Tearers are still around; Seth dislikes the Primaris and thinks they are "Ultramarines in red armour"
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2019/01/03 13:34:27
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
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"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura. |
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2019/01/03 14:44:28
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wayniac wrote:Flesh Tearers are still around; Seth dislikes the Primaris and thinks they are "Ultramarines in red armour"
A couple of dozens of sane Flash teaerers are left after the attack on Baal, and about another thirty in black rage if i remember correctly. Automatically Appended Next Post: That said, i think that we should add to this list about a dozen successor chapters of the Blood Angels give or take.
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2019/01/03 15:19:11
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Below contains spoilers for Lords of Silence
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/01/03 15:20:15
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2019/01/03 15:31:37
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
Dark Imperium by Guy Haley not only establishes that the Space Wolves have bounced back, for the first time they have stable successor chapters.
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2019/01/03 17:26:20
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
It's just people jealous they can't be as cool and manly as us fenrisians so they spread vile rumours, all driven by the fact they can't eat, drink, fight or smash as well as us.
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2019/01/03 17:34:45
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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And isn't "They are no wolves on Fenris" a thing? As in, the Chapter denies the existence of them to the wider Imperium.
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2019/01/03 18:04:01
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I don't think GW wants to say that any canonical chapter has been totally wiped out. It would annoy people who play that chapter.
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2019/01/04 01:16:04
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Galef wrote:And isn't "They are no wolves on Fenris" a thing? As in, the Chapter denies the existence of them to the wider Imperium.
No lad let me tell thee a tale.
Long ago before old night fel man came to fenris and found it good, but they on their long travels across the sea of stars had not been able to bring the animals of old earth so they sought to create them anew through biomancy long since lost to us, and so using the only material freely available mankind itself they recreated the wolf, elk bears and other creatures such as drakes, and sea serpents.
For an age they lived in a mythic land of their own making then came the great collapse of old night, without the mighty science of the human empire they lost their mastery, some retreated under ground and devolved into the night kin that infest the forbidden underground of fenrises only permanent land mass, others took to the seas and became the noble and savage fenrisians we know today.
Which is why fenrisian wolves are so much deadlier that any terran wolf was, because their ancestors were made from humans.
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2019/01/04 05:02:07
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Basically GW is acting like the events of SW's curbstomping did not happen. If the lore of that book is to be taken seriously there is no way the SW's have bounced back.
I never thought the reeming would hold, and it probably hasn't.
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2019/01/04 05:18:54
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We might have seen more with that if they didn't time skip at least a century right after.
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2019/01/04 13:32:38
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Yeah the time skip is annoying for many reasons, why did sw accept the primaris? Of all the chapters they'd be the ones to tell rowboat to take a flying leap.
But we get no information about it either from black library of the codex.
Financially we know why they are in but lore wide it's a massive hole that needed addressing.
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2019/01/04 13:59:36
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Ship's Officer
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The remnants of the Blood Knights died defending Baal.
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2019/01/05 15:16:26
Subject: Re:Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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thing with the flesh tearers there might not be many battle brothers left but they still have more dreadnoughts than anyother chapter because of there stupid charges also all the remaining are basically the best melee fighters in the imperium.
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I'm dyslexic and thus am bad at spelling and grammar please don't remind me in comments to my posts.
The flesh tearers really like killing so much. In fact they may love it more than inquisitors. |
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2019/01/05 15:29:09
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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hobojebus wrote: Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
It's just people jealous they can't be as cool and manly as us fenrisians so they spread vile rumours, all driven by the fact they can't eat, drink, fight or smash as well as us.
Well, at least we don't have fleas....
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"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura. |
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2019/01/05 16:02:05
Subject: Re:Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Dakka Veteran
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So, according to the book Spears of the Emperor (do not read the below if you intend to read the book):
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2019/01/05 17:18:12
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote: Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
It's just people jealous they can't be as cool and manly as us fenrisians so they spread vile rumours, all driven by the fact they can't eat, drink, fight or smash as well as us.
Well, at least we don't have fleas....
The bi annual bath takes care of the fleas, it's mange you have to watch out for.
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2019/01/05 21:22:11
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Scythes of the emperor were originally eaten by tyranids but have some how now survived.
Wasn’t there an entire chapter killed itself flying into a necromunda thing and blowing it up?
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2019/01/05 22:50:00
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Andykp wrote:Scythes of the emperor were originally eaten by tyranids but have some how now survived.
Wasn’t there an entire chapter killed itself flying into a necromunda thing and blowing it up?
The Scythes survival has been a thing for ages, in an old story a handful survived their encounter with the nids, the survivors were split into 2 factions, one wanted to go out in a blaze of glory against the nids, the other wanted to retreat and rebuild. The chapter master had been gathering up every potential recruit from every world they passed during their fighting withdrawal but didn’t have enough gene seed to go around. It’s heavily implied he did a deal with the inquisition and sent all the death and glory Scythes to the Deathwatch who desperately needed their hard won experience of fighting the nids, in return it he got a load of gene seed from that tithed to Mars for testing in better times.
That brought them back from the brink but nowhere near full size and they were critically short of equipment. The last I heard about them they had formed much of their strength into scavenger squads who go out on missions to retrieve any abandoned space marine equipment. The story I read had such a squad boarding a nid ship to follow an old Scythes distress signal. I’ve no idea how their doing now with Primaris.
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2019/01/08 16:24:17
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
So... then the entire grey knight & ordo malleus order should be purged since they fight with daemons all the time and survive?
So what would NOT be a capital crime when having to deal with daemons? Do you HAVE to die for it to be not a crime?
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2019/01/08 17:24:41
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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skchsan wrote: Techpriestsupport wrote:hobojebus wrote:4 is wrong we've had a book ashes of prospero that's set after rowboats crusade, the chapter is still going strong if stretched thin it features fenrisians still very much alive being rescued from a corrupted serpent by the anvil himself.
And the stormcaller brought back hundreds of heresy era marines from the 13th company.
I heard most of fenris' population was murdered by the grey knights for fighting daemons and surviving, which is a capital crime in the imperium.
I also heard all the fenrisian wolves are extinct now. I don't read every dighting book they release.
So... then the entire grey knight & ordo malleus order should be purged since they fight with daemons all the time and survive?
So what would NOT be a capital crime when having to deal with daemons? Do you HAVE to die for it to be not a crime?
If you survive a demon onslaught you must have either "made a deal with them" or possess heretical powers to overpower them.
Buuuuuuut it's whatever excuse they can make up really. I mean DA had tzeentch changelings on the rock and they let us off and gave us Primaris reinforcements.
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2019/01/08 20:46:21
Subject: Chapters that died out during the interim before 8e?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The mantis warriors are actually recovering and survived their crusade.
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