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The DKoK army list doesn't list Armageddon Pattern Basilisks among what can be taken, but it does list a standard Basilisk. The Armaggeddon Pattern Basilisk has the Basilisk keyword, does this mean it can be included in DKoK armies?
Actually, I think it is included in the army list, but they screwed something up... Again (at this point the number of errors in this book no longer surprises me). If you look, Basilisk is listed twice for the DKoK army, but one of them is next to the Armageddon Pattern Medusa. If I had to guess, someone wasn't paying much attention to what they were doing and just point Basilisk instead of Armaggeddon Pattern Basilisk.
JNAProductions wrote: They've got an email. Not sure exactly what it is, though-check the Warhammer Community page.
Or maybe check the FAQ sticky at the top of the forum...
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You can actually take whatever Astra Militarum units you'd like in your Death Korp army.
Because Forgeworld didn't get the memo on how Regiments work, Krieg don't actually lose their bonuses if you include other regiments in their detachment. So you can run an "Astra Militarum" battalion (rather than a Death Korp battalion) and still keep all of the Krieg benefits.
Either way, I sent a lengthy letter addressing a number of these issues with GW.
Here is a copy if anyone was interested in what I talked about:
Spoiler:
Hi,
My name is Sean and I wanted to get some clarification on quite a few issues in the Imperial Armour: Forces of the Astra Militarum.
1. For the Death Korps. of Krieg army list, Hydra and Basilisk are both listed twice. I am not 100%, but one is listed right above Armaggedon Pattern Medusa which leads me to beleive that this was meant to be the entry for Armaggedon Pattern Basilisk. As for the extra hydra entry, perhaps it was meant to be Wyvern?
2. For the Renegades & Heretics entry on Renegade Militia, starting at the second bullet point in the wargear section the book starts referring to Renegade Militia as Renegade Cultists and Renegade Militia Champion as Renegade Cultist Champion. This might have just been an oversight but it was quite confusing.
3. In the Renegades & Heretics section, the Renegade Plague Ogryn say that they deal wounds to any unit that does not have the "Nurgle" keyword. Does this mean that units that have the "Covenant of Nurgle" keyword are not immune to the Plague Ogryn dying?
4. Throughout the point listings in the back of the book, there are special notes in each section marked with **, but the problem is that no units as far as I could tell are marked as such and there are only units marked with * which again is quite confusing.
5. The Renegade & Heretics point list talks about units marked with ** as only allowing one of each in an army. First, the only units marked here have only *. Second, the units indicated all have nothing in their data sheets stating there can only be one of each in an army. Third, the units in question which include Renegade Command Squad, Renegade Disciple Squad, and Renegade Militia Squad are all units that can have a heavy weapon team added to them. Are these markings meant to indicate not that there can be only one unit in an army, but rather that each of these squads can take a heavy weapon team without adding additional points to their cost?
5. This is more open-ended, but is there any way that the Renegades & Heretics can mix with Chaos Daemons or Chaos Space Marines? It seems like the entire point of this faction was to be put together with these other armies, and ever since the rules-change regarding faction keywords the Renegades have been cut off and are severely lacking in model diversity or power compared to pretty much all other factions. Perhaps adding certain Chaos Marines or Chaos Daemons models to the R&H army list, or creating an exception to the faction keyword rule in regards to the R&H which is not likely to anger other players seeing as they are not as limited in their army choices.
Anyway, thanks for your time and if you could let me know about the answers to as many of these questions as possible it would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks again,
Sean
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Pakman184 wrote: You can actually take whatever Astra Militarum units you'd like in your Death Korp army.
Because Forgeworld didn't get the memo on how Regiments work, Krieg don't actually lose their bonuses if you include other regiments in their detachment. So you can run an "Astra Militarum" battalion (rather than a Death Korp battalion) and still keep all of the Krieg benefits.
Wow, looking at the details like you say actually does indicate that. Though you still won't be able to use regimental doctrines or orders...
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Orders still work perfectly as intended. Even though you might be running an "Astra Militarum Battalion," each individual unit still has a <Regiment> or DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG keyword. This means that your Field Officers and Marshals will still be able to Order the Krieg units, and if you decided to include Company Commanders (for whatever reason), they'd still be able to Order whichever <Regiment> units are in your detachment as well.
Regimental Doctrines wouldn't work though, you're correct.
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Pakman184 wrote: Orders still work perfectly as intended. Even though you might be running an "Astra Militarum Battalion," each individual unit still has a <Regiment> or DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG keyword. This means that your Field Officers and Marshals will still be able to Order the Krieg units, and if you decided to include Company Commanders (for whatever reason), they'd still be able to Order whichever <Regiment> units are in your detachment as well.
Regimental Doctrines wouldn't work though, you're correct.
Sorry, I meant the orders listed in the Astra Militarum codex that only a certain regiment can use
Pakman184 wrote: You can actually take whatever Astra Militarum units you'd like in your Death Korp army.
Because Forgeworld didn't get the memo on how Regiments work, Krieg don't actually lose their bonuses if you include other regiments in their detachment. So you can run an "Astra Militarum" battalion (rather than a Death Korp battalion) and still keep all of the Krieg benefits.
But you cannot give anything not on the list the DKOK keyword (or benefits).
To reiterate the answer, no, you cannot give the DKOK keyword to an Armageddon Pattern Basilisk.