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2019/05/23 11:41:11
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There seems to be some disagreements on whether or not the Primaris Psyker datasheet from the index has been replaced for or not.
Some argue that even though the flow chart in the FAQ specifies that if a model has a datasheet in a codex you use the new datasheet.
Some claim that the datasheet is not replaced if you are using a "astra telapathica" detatchment instead of a "astra militarum" due to an astra telapathica codex not existing.
The only references I can find say that a model's datasheet must be replaced if a new one appears in a codex. If this is not the case can someone please provide references. Or if someone can show that a datasheet list from the astra-telepathica list is inherently a completely different datasheet than that from another codex. Otherwise I can't find a rule that suggest this anywhere.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/05/23 11:43:23
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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See thread https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/775821.page
Short answer
Use the designers flow chart
does your model have a data sheet in a codex
For Astra militarum Answer =yes Are their wargear options for your model that only appear in the index version of the data sheet. Answer=no use the codex version of the datasheet
Does your model have a data sheet in a codex
For Astro telepathica Answer =no use the the index version of the models datasheet
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/05/23 11:46:04
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2019/05/23 11:44:58
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Migrated the conversation here, because this question was not related to the topic of that thread.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/05/23 11:46:29
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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Yes it was and this is therefore a duplicate thread
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2019/05/23 11:48:44
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How is this related to
"what stratagems do you access to when you use a primaris psyker with sisters of battle"
So no, this is creating a clarified new thread for a new topic.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Can we please stay on topic here, unlike the other thread.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/05/23 11:49:15
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/05/23 11:57:51
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh in that case no strategems. although if you had a seperate AM detatchment you could use their strats on the astro telepathica units with the am keyword
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2019/05/23 12:00:43
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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U02dah4 wrote:Oh in that case no strategems. although if you had a seperate AM detatchment you could use their strats on the astro telepathica units with the am keyword
this is off topic, put this comment in the other thread. . .
You know, people come on this forum to check discussions relevant to their own questions,,, that's why it is important to have separate threads about various topics...
The answer to the other thread topic has already been clarified. Hence the need for a new one answering something different. .
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/05/23 12:34:30
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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When you have a long discussion on one thread announcing in that thread your moving it to another a thread keeps the argument going in two threads or cuts off the first half of the discussion far from giving clarity all it it does is create two parallel discussions of the same thing.
Sure the original question in the other thread was answered but that answer brought up a problem which needs to be resolved to apply it in practice so the discussion continued. Its still relevant to the original Q.
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2019/05/23 12:41:11
Subject: What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thats why I sugested to move it to here, and outlined my points in the original post, so it could be responded too by you and anyone else... unfortunately you didn't like that.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
A small recap from both sides and a succinct new topic that would have been easy for question seekers to find.
But this is kind of ruined now. so this thread might as well be locked as it is completely off topic due to an unwillingness to keep things organized for new users and topic searchers.
So i guess this thread should be closed.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/05/23 12:43:12
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/05/23 14:46:07
Subject: Re:What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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What kind of detachment it is doesn't really matter I don't think.
The "Primaris Psyker" datasheet has been reprinted in a Codex, and that's the one you should use.
I'm not sure why you'd want to use the Index one anyway; its identical except you have fewer psychic powers to choose from... You must still use the updated points in the AM Codex (+ CA2018) either way.
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2019/05/23 17:07:02
Subject: Re:What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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 Kcalehc wrote:What kind of detachment it is doesn't really matter I don't think.
The "Primaris Psyker" datasheet has been reprinted in a Codex, and that's the one you should use.
I'm not sure why you'd want to use the Index one anyway; its identical except you have fewer psychic powers to choose from... You must still use the updated points in the AM Codex (+ CA2018) either way.
I concur. The flowchart does not care about what codex it's been printed in just that it has a codex.
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2019/05/23 17:38:59
Subject: Re:What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kcalehc wrote:What kind of detachment it is doesn't really matter I don't think.
The "Primaris Psyker" datasheet has been reprinted in a Codex, and that's the one you should use.
I'm not sure why you'd want to use the Index one anyway; its identical except you have fewer psychic powers to choose from... You must still use the updated points in the AM Codex (+ CA2018) either way.
Which was exactly why you dont move thread you lose the context.
You dont want to use the datasheet what you want is to use the astro telepathica points in the astro telepathica detatchment not the astra militarum pts sacrificeing power selection for pts is a trade you might want to make.
In an astra militarum detatchment the flow chart is clear you use the astra militarum data sheet and points.
In the astro telepathica detatchment their is no codex as they have yet to print an astro telepathica codex so the flow chart says you use the index. Thats what the argument was originally about.
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2019/05/23 18:12:02
Subject: Re:What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Norn Queen
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U02dah4 wrote: Kcalehc wrote:What kind of detachment it is doesn't really matter I don't think.
The "Primaris Psyker" datasheet has been reprinted in a Codex, and that's the one you should use.
I'm not sure why you'd want to use the Index one anyway; its identical except you have fewer psychic powers to choose from... You must still use the updated points in the AM Codex (+ CA2018) either way.
Which was exactly why you dont move thread you lose the context.
You dont want to use the datasheet what you want is to use the astro telepathica points in the astro telepathica detatchment not the astra militarum pts sacrificeing power selection for pts is a trade you might want to make.
In an astra militarum detatchment the flow chart is clear you use the astra militarum data sheet and points.
In the astro telepathica detatchment their is no codex as they have yet to print an astro telepathica codex so the flow chart says you use the index. Thats what the argument was originally about.
The flowchart doesn't care what codex or what type of detachment it is.
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2019/05/23 18:12:41
Subject: Re:What Data sheets are Available for a Primaris Psyker
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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U02dah4 wrote: Kcalehc wrote:What kind of detachment it is doesn't really matter I don't think.
The "Primaris Psyker" datasheet has been reprinted in a Codex, and that's the one you should use.
I'm not sure why you'd want to use the Index one anyway; its identical except you have fewer psychic powers to choose from... You must still use the updated points in the AM Codex (+ CA2018) either way.
Which was exactly why you dont move thread you lose the context.
You dont want to use the datasheet what you want is to use the astro telepathica points in the astro telepathica detatchment not the astra militarum pts sacrificeing power selection for pts is a trade you might want to make.
In an astra militarum detatchment the flow chart is clear you use the astra militarum data sheet and points.
In the astro telepathica detatchment their is no codex as they have yet to print an astro telepathica codex so the flow chart says you use the index. Thats what the argument was originally about.
Like I said elsewhere.
can you prove it ?
you know, with references and evidence. That disprove the clear text that is repeatedly shown to you.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/05/23 18:13:24
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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