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I've just started a SM KT after wanting a change from DW. I proxyed them last week and won both games against custodes and SM, so I'm off to a happy start. I have this idea I want to stick with and that is using as much combi grav/flamers as I can afford. I want that to be my base go to team. Then when it comes to 125pts + games I would like to add in vanguard vets. Bare in mind I only play one guy who uses GK,IG and SM.

Here's some list I've come up with.

100pts
X5 sternguard with combi grav - 85pts
X1 sternguard sarge with SIB, chainsword, grav pistol - 15pts

125pts
X5 sternguard with combi grav - 85pts
X1 sternguard sarge with combi flamer, hand flamer, chainsword - 19pts
X1 vanguard sarge zealot with jump pack, x2 Chainsword, hand flamer - 21pts

Now comes the fun one 200pts. I haven't put a list together for this one but I'll put out a few suggestions and see if you can come up with anything.

X5 sternguard with combi flamer and x5 with combi grav is 175pts, so still room for other things like a leader.
X3 vanguard vets with jump pack, 1 with x2 grav pistols, 1 with x2 plasma pistol, 1 with x2 Chainsword =
65pts. I'm not sure how far I should take it with the jump packs, but the above seem like good combos. I haven't put any thought into specialisms apart from the vanguard sarge. Anyway any input is appreciated cheers.

Why standard Sternguys with combis when you can have Company Vets with “Adults” weapons? For less points?

- Sternguard Vet. - Combi-grav. 17
- Company Vet. - Gravgun. 15

- Sternguard Vet. - Combi-plasma. 20
- Company Vet. - Plasmagun. 18

Besides, I don’t get the 2x chainswords jumping guy.. only the first Sword gives you the +1Attack bonus.

Well the combi weapons are just straight up a better weapon. It's the all the same apart from i can fire a Bolter, overwatch twice and it gives me better range.

Where does it say that you only get +1 for the first Chainsword only?

Macabre Galatic wrote:
Well the combi weapons are just straight up a better weapon. It's the all the same apart from i can fire a Bolter, overwatch twice and it gives me better range.

Where does it say that you only get +1 for the first Chainsword only?

Its probably an extension of the Designer commentary about Tyranid Warrior Chainswords, which say two pairs of boneswords still only grants one extra attack.

Dual Pistols, except hand flamers/flame pistols isn’t a great idea to me. If you’ll choose to shoot with both you ‘ll suffer a -1 to hit


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That said, in 100 pts missions the Stenguards could work just fine.
Deathwatch style if you want.
But in regular 100 pts missions normally no elites Units should be allowed. Your mileage may vary.

When you open the discussion for 125/200 without Commander/200 with Commander, you’ll have to takenin consideration all the new dinamics availables.
Outflank, terminators teleport, jump pack/grav-chutes landing etc.. since you can have hem consider Storm Shields.

It happears however that your lists (shoudn’t we talk about rosters instead?) are extremely picky since you know your friend’s armies.

No reasons to take so many Grav weapons otherwise.

Our commentary, therefore, are of very limited value